As far as systems go i think that everything with a cartridge or a floppy disk is way more "retro" than anything that uses cd's. Especially if it's a DVD, i know Blue-Ray is out now but DVD's are way more high tech than a cart. I do agree with racket in labeling this stuff as "neo-retro." That seems apt.
Also, as far as retro games it doens't matter what system it's on or even if it's emualtion. I have alot of the old school collections, and I think they are a fantastic way to play retro games. They are even newer games like Odin Sphere, Viewtiful Joe, or Alien Hominid that use many retro elements but aren't neccesarily retro. I think we can all tell the difference between Halo and Goldeneye, or Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Bros.
The PS1 does have alot of retro themed rpgs and shmups. It's just that they billed themselves as more "next-gen" and high tech than other companies. But hey didn't Sega do that with the Genesis and 32-X? hmm....
Retrogaming CUT OFF!!!
I think anything beyond the current generation should be considered "retro" since it's no longer the main console that we're seeing advertised everywhere. When you stop a random kid on the street, the question now is "Hey, do you have a PS3? A Wii? A 360?" Sure, since we're only a couple of years into the new generation, a lot still have PS2s or GCs, but that's not the thing to have anymore. Heck, I'll sit down and enjoy a launch title on the PS2, and those are approaching ten years in age.
I also think backwards compatibility in consoles affects our judgment on what is retro and what isn't. I can still play GC games on my Wii. I can play a PS1 title on a PS3 with no problems. These titles never left. They're not the most up to date, sure, but we still have the top-of-the-line console playing them in our homes. Now stuff like the Saturn? Good luck finding a modern console to play those. So we automatically think that that's older, or more 'retro,' because it's something that's gonna take a little more effort to play, since it's not on a console found in everybody's home anymore.
Now I don't think of myself as a retro gamer. I don't think of myself as a console or a PC gamer. I'm just a gamer. Sure, I've got preferences, and there are certain genres of games that I won't touch with a ten-foot pole. But I've been alive long enough to see every generation of Nintendo console, the rise and fall of Sega consoles, Sony coming to the head of the gaming world, and all the other crap that's happened since 1985. I've played every generation since then, and even spent time on the ones that came before my time. Hell, I've played on original Pong machines, and held a cartridge of E.T. in my hands. And every generation has had its gems and its clunkers. They've all had their failings and their charms. With each generation we get something new, and something is always lost. But they've all got something in common. They've all had games. And every game is worth playing at least once.
Why should we even bother limiting ourselves to old titles? Give all of it a shot, regardless of age.
I also think backwards compatibility in consoles affects our judgment on what is retro and what isn't. I can still play GC games on my Wii. I can play a PS1 title on a PS3 with no problems. These titles never left. They're not the most up to date, sure, but we still have the top-of-the-line console playing them in our homes. Now stuff like the Saturn? Good luck finding a modern console to play those. So we automatically think that that's older, or more 'retro,' because it's something that's gonna take a little more effort to play, since it's not on a console found in everybody's home anymore.
Now I don't think of myself as a retro gamer. I don't think of myself as a console or a PC gamer. I'm just a gamer. Sure, I've got preferences, and there are certain genres of games that I won't touch with a ten-foot pole. But I've been alive long enough to see every generation of Nintendo console, the rise and fall of Sega consoles, Sony coming to the head of the gaming world, and all the other crap that's happened since 1985. I've played every generation since then, and even spent time on the ones that came before my time. Hell, I've played on original Pong machines, and held a cartridge of E.T. in my hands. And every generation has had its gems and its clunkers. They've all had their failings and their charms. With each generation we get something new, and something is always lost. But they've all got something in common. They've all had games. And every game is worth playing at least once.
Why should we even bother limiting ourselves to old titles? Give all of it a shot, regardless of age.
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kewlrabbit
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PharmaceuticalCowboy
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Yeah I was gonna come back and say I don't really think the PS2 is retro because it will get many Wii ports far into the future, hardly a good sign for a "retro" system. Oh and Nintendo's use of GC controllers on the Wii kind of makes the GC not retro either... but that's a tougher call.kewlrabbit wrote:I really consider any console that's not being made, or "dead", retro. Ps2 isn't yet, but GC/Xbox/Dreamcast are.
I think the Dreamcast is the only 6th-gen console that should be considered retro in the terms of Together Retro. Considering that it's been discontinued since 2001 or 2002, I think that's pretty retro - even if it is only last gen.
That said, I enjoy games of all generations for the most part. Retro has nothing to do with it for me, and I know this discussion is mainly about what games the club should select. Unfortunately this forces everyone to actually define the term "retro" literally.
Actually, lately I've been picking up Gamecube games for my Wii since I know that once they are considered retro the prices will increase significantly.
That said, I enjoy games of all generations for the most part. Retro has nothing to do with it for me, and I know this discussion is mainly about what games the club should select. Unfortunately this forces everyone to actually define the term "retro" literally.
Actually, lately I've been picking up Gamecube games for my Wii since I know that once they are considered retro the prices will increase significantly.
I consider the Dreamcast a half-generation. While is was a major advance over the Saturn/PS1/N64, it was, time-wise and media-wise more a 5.5 gen than a 6 gen. It has the 3D and network chops of a 6 gen while being positioned more to overlap the end of the 5 gen.
I think the Turbo Grafx 16/PC Engine is the same. It was a 3.5 generation machine. It was capable of competing with the 4 generation machines but was placed to compete with the last of the 3 gen machines.
I think the Turbo Grafx 16/PC Engine is the same. It was a 3.5 generation machine. It was capable of competing with the 4 generation machines but was placed to compete with the last of the 3 gen machines.
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Question: Are there any N64 games that aren't 3D?
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