The new Lara Croft is looking bad ass.

[Czernobog]

I only ever played the first Tomb Raider games, but I really liked them. I imagine they would feel pretty clunky if I went back to them today. By the third I had sort of started entering that time in my life when girls took massive priority over everything, so I barely played games for a few years. Need to go back and give some of the others a fair chance. I'll admit I really enjoyed the Uncharted games, the second one much more than the first, but I don't want Tomb Raider to become those games either. Actually, I thought both Uncharted games had way too much gun fighting. I much preferred the exploration aspect, but thought it was far too linear to really be considered exploration. I'm hoping the new Tomb Raider really refines the climbing/spelunking aspect and focuses on letting the player explore creative large environments with lots of hidden areas and things find.

[nickfil]

it inspired me to pull underworld off the shelf. I really liked anniversary and legend, but underworld is getting really difficult to get through. Not that it is difficult- just either boring or tedious.

so yeah- hope they make a game that isn't boring or tedious.

[NathanBarnatt]

I don't think Uncharted is overrated. I'm a hard one to please when it comes to current gen games and the Uncharted games have been the most fun I've had playing games in a long time. I feel like a game like Halo is overrated. Uncharted did TR the right way. And I think it's good if TR follows some of its examples.

[Czernobog]

I don't think Uncharted is overrated. I'm a hard one to please when it comes to current gen games and the Uncharted games have been the most fun I've had playing games in a long time. I feel like a game like Halo is overrated. Uncharted did TR the right way. And I think it's good if TR follows some of its examples.

I really enjoyed the Uncharted games as well, but I'm thinking I would like to see Tomb Raider follow and expand upon the exploration aspect of Uncharted more than the combat. I feel like if it follows Uncharted too closely, it could lose its originality. I always enjoyed that the Tomb Raider games originally seemed more about actually exploring ancient runes and puzzle solving than combat.

[nickfil]

I feel like if it follows Uncharted too closely, it could lose its originality. I always enjoyed that the Tomb Raider games originally seemed more about actually exploring ancient runes and puzzle solving than combat.

Too true. They have to focus on being different from eachother, otherwise one is going to just stomp out the other rather than co-existing. I'd rather have 2 good games than one good one and one watered down version of the other.

I think uncharted is only overrated becuase sony didn't do that well in this generation of consoles. There are so few unique PS3 games that deserve attention. Uncharted gets overrated because sony fanboys scream about it. A great game, no doubt, but one i could've passed on and still feel like i'm a well rounded gamer.

[Gamerforlife]

I don't think Uncharted is overrated. I'm a hard one to please when it comes to current gen games and the Uncharted games have been the most fun I've had playing games in a long time. I feel like a game like Halo is overrated. Uncharted did TR the right way. And I think it's good if TR follows some of its examples.

I really enjoyed the Uncharted games as well, but I'm thinking I would like to see Tomb Raider follow and expand upon the exploration aspect of Uncharted more than the combat. I feel like if it follows Uncharted too closely, it could lose its originality. I always enjoyed that the Tomb Raider games originally seemed more about actually exploring ancient runes and puzzle solving than combat.

What bugged me with Uncharted was that a LOT of it was Gears of War style cover shooting gameplay. I like when the Tomb Raider games can throw in a little combat without turning into an out and out third person shooter. That's Gears of War. That's Halo. That's not Tomb Raider and that's one of the reasons why I don't like Uncharted. It's just another cog in the machine as there's already a thousand Gears of War clones out there.

Now Guardian of Light I liked, because that was something completely different(an old school, arcade style, 2d twin stick shooter)and it put Lara up against ancient monsters and creatures rather than your run of the mill, faceless, gun toting mercs. I like that we actually see mercenary looking guys taken out of the game permanently in the second level as if to say, this isn't going to be like most modern day shooters with boring, soldier type enemies

I like TR Anniversary's combat. It brought TR back to its roots where Lara is fighting the wildlife and not armed, faceless mercenaries. You come across a wild bear, you shoot at it, it gets enraged and charges straight towards you, you stylishly dodge to the side in slow motion while planting a bullet right in its skull. Fight over, back to exploring. Or you suddenly run into a pack of wolves, you quickly find some high ground and pick them off one by one. That's how combat in a TR game should work. Lara versus the environment. That's what it's all about. How do I traverse the environment? Platforming. What is the environment hiding from me? Exploration. What do I do when the environment shows its teeth in the form of wildlife? Combat

That's Tomb Raider. Exploring, platforming and some light wildlife based combat, all taking place in mysterious, lonely, atmospheric, far away, isolated places. Quiet places with minimalistic use of music. That's not what Uncharted 2 is. Uncharted 2 is just your basic, LOUD, summer movie blockbuster with way too much over the top, Gears of War style action and cinematic moments. It's as far away from what Tomb Raider originally was as I can think of.

[nickfil]

That's Tomb Raider. Exploring, platforming and some light wildlife based combat, all taking place in mysterious, lonely, atmospheric, far away, isolated places. Quiet places with minimalistic use of music.

couldn't have said it better. Tomb raider is one of those games that has been DYING for sandbox gameplay. Drop me in ancient ruins and let me just explore. That is what i'm there for. Although i am a HUGE fan of anniversary, it is a remake of the first tomb raider and honestly- we can do better. I enjoy the level design, but it is super linear. The game is about exploration. Make that happen in gameplay as well as story/mood.

[jfrost]

I like super linear.

[nickfil]

I like super linear.

yeah... but think about linear exploration with diverging paths. You never stand somewhere in a croft game and decide which path to take. I'd like that.

[Stark]

What bugged me with Uncharted was that a LOT of it was Gears of War style cover shooting gameplay. I like when the Tomb Raider games can throw in a little combat without turning into an out and out third person shooter. That's Gears of War. That's Halo. That's not Tomb Raider and that's one of the reasons why I don't like Uncharted. It's just another cog in the machine as there's already a thousand Gears of War clones out there.

First of all, bonus points for using the word 'cog' in a statement about Gears of War. Overall, I think this statement is unfair to Uncharted. These games were in production at the same time and while Uncharted came out a year after GoW it's really hard to copy anything with only a year left on production of a game. That year was all about polishing. Gears itself was not the first time a cover mechanic ever came into play. I also felt that Uncharted's cover style felt and played a lot differently than Gears.