Are current video games too sexy?

[diehllane]

Games won't be too sexy until the characters are fully nude.

The more criticized a game is, the more it's going to sell.

[Ack]

In terms of old games, I'm just going to throw something out here:

Custer's Revenge

I think part of the reason more recent games utilize so much eye candy is, first, because sex sells. It's nice to see something that's easy on the eyes, even if there's no physical way for it to actually exist in reality. Second, graphics are getting more and more realistic, so we have the capability of creating "sexier" characters...and the guys making them are pervs just as much as the guys playing them.

I also believe the rating system stops the nudity, since few stores are willing to sell titles with that rating.

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

I don't see what the fuss is about the current rating system. The only people that I can see being upset are those who aren't old enough to buy MA titles and Mommy and Daddy won't buy them. Other than that, if you want a game, buy it.

As for the 'sexiness' of video games, the way I look at it is that if that is what you have to do to sell your game, then there must not be much of a game. Remember the whole thing over the BMX XXX game? The reviews were pretty much, "Yeah, you can be topless, but the game sucks."

JY

[wyatt]

I don't see what the fuss is about the current rating system. The only people that I can see being upset are those who aren't old enough to buy MA titles and Mommy and Daddy won't buy them. Other than that, if you want a game, buy it.

JY

The problem, among those already mentioned, is that developers are being restricted in what they can put in thier games by the ratings system, like the changes to Manhunt 2. If the AO rating is bullshit (and it is) and retailers refuse to carry games with that rating (and they do) forcing the manufacturers to tame down thier content to an M (which they have to), then the consumers get fucked.

(Which we do.)

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

The problem, among those already mentioned, is that developers are being restricted in what they can put in thier games by the ratings system, like the changes to Manhunt 2. If the AO rating is bullshit (and it is) and retailers refuse to carry games with that rating (and they do) forcing the manufacturers to tame down thier content to an M (which they have to), then the consumers get fucked.

(Which we do.)

Okay. The only comment I remember seeing about the AO rating was that it should be done away with. Still, the whole thing is a series of trade-offs. Developers can put whatever they want in their games, but have to be aware of the rating that will go with it. If the "artistic freedom" and whatever their content is supposed to be is that important, then take the AO and deal with the limited sale opportunities. If the sales are more important than the artistic integrity and what the designer wanted, then scale it back for the M.

I am sure that the majority of the AO rated games can be bought on line. This looks like a perfect opportunity for someone who would like to provide an outlet for the AO rated games.

JY

[aaron]

currently marveling at what i have created.

[wyatt]

Okay. The only comment I remember seeing about the AO rating was that it should be done away with. Still, the whole thing is a series of trade-offs. Developers can put whatever they want in their games, but have to be aware of the rating that will go with it. If the "artistic freedom" and whatever their content is supposed to be is that important, then take the AO and deal with the limited sale opportunities. If the sales are more important than the artistic integrity and what the designer wanted, then scale it back for the M.

I am sure that the majority of the AO rated games can be bought on line. This looks like a perfect opportunity for someone who would like to provide an outlet for the AO rated games.

JY

No, you are ignorant of the costs in creating a game to think there can be any supporting market of an AO game. If your game isn't sold at Wal Mart, Target, Meijer, GameStop, Toys R us, then you are never going to recoup the costs of making the game, and it doesn't get made. The idea that a game not being carried by those retailers is a perfect opportunity to corner some market is laughable. It isn't a "trade off", it isn't "limited sales opportunites", it is a crushing blow that sends games back into development even if they have already been released, because no game, not even the most popular game on the market, can survive that rating.


And the hypocracy of it is, that shows you aren't thinking critically, is that those same exact retailers are selling movies with content just as gruesome and sex filled as these supposed AO games. Look on the DVD shelves of Wal Mart, movies like Saw, Reanimator have shit in them way worse than even uncensored Manhunt 2. But fucking hot coffee gets a recall, front page news, censored and re-released.

The entire mindset of the ESRB, the rating system, every businessman outside the videogame industry and even some in it, and non-specialist retailers, and what really fucking irks me, is this: Video games are a childrens product from top to bottom. The more offensive the fucking prudes at ESRB and dumbass senators and congress people find it, the more they want to scare off anyone from buying it, because it must be ending up in a child's hands at some point. So, if you are 15, then cool, no sweat. But if you are older than that and want to see games written and created with all the freedoms afforded movies and books, tough shit because you are a fucking ingrate that is gonna give it to your little sister. No that isn't insulting at all.

[elph]

No, you are ignorant of the costs in creating a game to think there can be any supporting market of an AO game. If your game isn't sold at Wal Mart, Target, Meijer, GameStop, Toys R us, then you are never going to recoup the costs of making the game, and it doesn't get made. The idea that a game not being carried by those retailers is a perfect opportunity to corner some market is laughable. It isn't a "trade off", it isn't "limited sales opportunites", it is a crushing blow that sends games back into development even if they have already been released, because no game, not even the most popular game on the market, can survive that rating.


And the hypocracy of it is, that shows you aren't thinking critically, is that those same exact retailers are selling movies with content just as gruesome and sex filled as these supposed AO games. Look on the DVD shelves of Wal Mart, movies like Saw, Reanimator have shit in them way worse than even uncensored Manhunt 2. But fucking hot coffee gets a recall, front page news, censored and re-released.

The entire mindset of the ESRB, the rating system, every businessman outside the videogame industry and even some in it, and non-specialist retailers, and what really fucking irks me, is this: Video games are a childrens product from top to bottom. The more offensive the fucking prudes at ESRB and dumbass senators and congress people find it, the more they want to scare off anyone from buying it, because it must be ending up in a child's hands at some point. So, if you are 15, then cool, no sweat. But if you are older than that and want to see games written and created with all the freedoms afforded movies and books, tough shit because you are a fucking ingrate that is gonna give it to your little sister. No that isn't insulting at all.

Tell us how you really feel.



As for me, I'd prefer the European version of No More Heroes to the American one because it's less violent. I don't see how it(violence, sex, etc.) adds anything, other than a chance to get desensitized.

[wyatt]

No offense should be taken from my posts I just get off on a tangent, please excuse my abruptness. Just some train of thought there, sorry.

[HoboJoe]

Sometimes violence helps put forward a theme or setting. Like obviously in Manhunt the setting and them are very gloomy so gruesome violence helps it out. That's my opinion. Sex is really never needed. If you want sex....find a real girl...not a bunch of polygons.