Anonymous strikes again
- Weekend_Warrior
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Even if it wasn't Anonymous, it's still the work of hackers, and I'm willing to bet it's related to the George "Geohot" Hotz case, too.
This is the quote from Wikipedia that I believe this all stems from:
"The Sony PS3 console was hacked, or more appropriately "jailbroken", by iPhone hacker, Geohot. He managed to reverse engineer his own PlayStation 3 to run homebrew applications on it. He then later released the method to the public through his site, geohot.com. Sony responded with a lawsuit and demanded social media sites, including YouTube, to hand over IP addresses of people who visited Geohot's social pages and videos."
"PayPal has granted Sony access to Geohot's PayPal account, and the judge of the case granted Sony permission to view the IP addresses of everyone who visited geohot.com. Sony is also after another group of hackers for the same case. In April 2011, it was revealed that Sony and Hotz had settled the lawsuit out of court, on the condition that Hotz would never again resume any hacking work on Sony products."
I mean, talk about "intrusion," Paypal giving other people/companies your personal information? Maybe if Geohot were Bin Laden or some sort of hardened criminal that was funding a known terrorist group like "al Qaeda" then perhaps I could understand. But hacking/modding a cellular phone (iPhone) or in this case, a video game console, should hardly be grounds for Paypal to be granting outside parties access to your and other people's accounts!
So with that being said, I'm actually glad that Sony's network has been hacked. Of course it stinks for all the PS3 users, but I think Sony does need to learn a lesson here - you mess with us then we'll mess with you.
This is the quote from Wikipedia that I believe this all stems from:
"The Sony PS3 console was hacked, or more appropriately "jailbroken", by iPhone hacker, Geohot. He managed to reverse engineer his own PlayStation 3 to run homebrew applications on it. He then later released the method to the public through his site, geohot.com. Sony responded with a lawsuit and demanded social media sites, including YouTube, to hand over IP addresses of people who visited Geohot's social pages and videos."
"PayPal has granted Sony access to Geohot's PayPal account, and the judge of the case granted Sony permission to view the IP addresses of everyone who visited geohot.com. Sony is also after another group of hackers for the same case. In April 2011, it was revealed that Sony and Hotz had settled the lawsuit out of court, on the condition that Hotz would never again resume any hacking work on Sony products."
I mean, talk about "intrusion," Paypal giving other people/companies your personal information? Maybe if Geohot were Bin Laden or some sort of hardened criminal that was funding a known terrorist group like "al Qaeda" then perhaps I could understand. But hacking/modding a cellular phone (iPhone) or in this case, a video game console, should hardly be grounds for Paypal to be granting outside parties access to your and other people's accounts!
So with that being said, I'm actually glad that Sony's network has been hacked. Of course it stinks for all the PS3 users, but I think Sony does need to learn a lesson here - you mess with us then we'll mess with you.
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Re: Anonymous strikes again
I doubt Sony is going away after all this commotion, but it does raise a good point in what good security will do for customers that don't really care for it.
Thing that perplexes me is that the Rebug boxes were able to access the Sony account database from an external location. Dunno about you guys, but in my line of work, testing for that type of stuff is normally kept on a really strict and internal only network. What in blue-blazes was Sony thinking by making a Dev-network accessible from the outside?
Thing that perplexes me is that the Rebug boxes were able to access the Sony account database from an external location. Dunno about you guys, but in my line of work, testing for that type of stuff is normally kept on a really strict and internal only network. What in blue-blazes was Sony thinking by making a Dev-network accessible from the outside?
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- wip3outguy7
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I'm going to make a very radical prediction here, but I think Sony is done with the home console business. They will never recover from this. I honestly would not be surprised if we see a SEGA Saturn-like drop in support near the end of this year or in the beginning of 2012.AmishSamurai wrote:Speculation time: How will this affect the release and sales of the NGP? I wouldn't be surprised if it gets delayed until PSN is heavily reinforced, or canned entirely. Next gen could end up being just Nintendo and Microsoft.
I would venture to say that Sony as an electronics company will be on shaky ground for years to come as well.
Re: Anonymous strikes again
I think a lot of you are getting caught up in a sense of self-importance. This will not ruin Sony's gaming division, or even severely affect them long term. The residual effects of the EARTHQUAKE will affect them more than this. It seems huge because it hit the mainstream media and it's an egregious breach, but this is not the first company to be hacked and have personal information stolen. They recovered, and Sony will too.
The incredibly small handful of you that will boycott Sony for whatever reason you feel is justified, good on you. The world needs more people willing to stand up for what they believe in and actually stick to their guns about it. However the rest of us, and the even larger segment of general consumers will forgive, forget, and continue to enjoy the entertainment Sony offers -- if they even noticed or cared in the first place.
The incredibly small handful of you that will boycott Sony for whatever reason you feel is justified, good on you. The world needs more people willing to stand up for what they believe in and actually stick to their guns about it. However the rest of us, and the even larger segment of general consumers will forgive, forget, and continue to enjoy the entertainment Sony offers -- if they even noticed or cared in the first place.
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Re: Anonymous strikes again
Here we go. Another class action lawsuit filed against Sony. This one for security breach:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1164392p1.html
Sony = Losing
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1164392p1.html
Sony = Losing
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Re: Anonymous strikes again
honestly, I'm not all up in arms (yet anyway). I mean, I'm obviously going to be sure to closely monitor my CC, but when PSN goes back up, I'll change my password and be playing games on there again.
Re: Anonymous strikes again
Amen. I've got some trophies to earn.noiseredux wrote:honestly, I'm not all up in arms (yet anyway). I mean, I'm obviously going to be sure to closely monitor my CC, but when PSN goes back up, I'll change my password and be playing games on there again.
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I don't want it to happen or think it's some kind of punishment against them, I'm just saying it is a possibility. Once this round of console wars have ended I plan on getting one still.irixith wrote:I think a lot of you are getting caught up in a sense of self-importance. This will not ruin Sony's gaming division, or even severely affect them long term. The residual effects of the EARTHQUAKE will affect them more than this. It seems huge because it hit the mainstream media and it's an egregious breach, but this is not the first company to be hacked and have personal information stolen. They recovered, and Sony will too.
The incredibly small handful of you that will boycott Sony for whatever reason you feel is justified, good on you. The world needs more people willing to stand up for what they believe in and actually stick to their guns about it. However the rest of us, and the even larger segment of general consumers will forgive, forget, and continue to enjoy the entertainment Sony offers -- if they even noticed or cared in the first place.
The NGP did look a bit silly though.
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Re: Anonymous strikes again
Same here. I'll probably be removing my credit card information from PSN (assuming it's still there) and refrain from buying anything off there again though. Video game related things are pretty much at the bottom of the list of things I'm willing to get all self righteous over.noiseredux wrote:honestly, I'm not all up in arms (yet anyway). I mean, I'm obviously going to be sure to closely monitor my CC, but when PSN goes back up, I'll change my password and be playing games on there again.
- wip3outguy7
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Agreed. When PSN finally comes back up, I will change my password and continue playing business as usual. I will definitely take a wait-and-see approach to buying new games, though. I'm not sinking any more money into a console with dying support if things get nasty.
