Anonymous strikes again

[brunoafh]

Be angry at Sony's lack of adequate security. Not the hackers.

I don't see how you can look at it that way. That's like condoning thievery as long as the stuff you stole wasn't properly secured.

[flex wood]

Okay, let's talk about something way more important:

The betting pool for how long the mandatory firmware update will take to download / install.

me: what was the last bid bob?

bob barker: 20 minutes

me: ok bob I'll go with 21 minutes.

bob barker: ok actual retail psn update time is two hous and forty seven minutes

[MrPopo]

How come nobody's mad at the person who made that debug cfw thing?

I am mad at anyone who feels that THEIR rights and issues are more important than anyone else's. The smoker who concerned only with THEIR right to smoke. The mothers who are concerned only with THEIR right to breast feed in public. The Jehova's Witnesses who are concerned only with THEIR right to indoctrinate door to door. The "anonymous" hackers concerned only with THEIR right to do whatever they want with their PS3.

All of these things are fine until they begin to affect other people who didn't ask for it. That's when I get mad, whether I'm directly affected or not.

If these malcontent miscreants want to wage war against Sony for something, that's fine -- but leave me and all the other users who don't care about their war alone. Not only can I not play online (or purchase something I really wanted for my PSP from the store), now I have to live with the fact that my personal information was stolen too. This sure as shit isn't solving any problems, or making me any more interested in hearing about why they're doing what they're doing.

Be angry at Sony's lack of adequate security. Not the hackers.

How about we be mad at both? If the hackers weren't there the security wouldn't be necessary. Since the hackers exist the security is necessary. Both parties are at fault.

[flex wood]

Be angry at Sony's lack of adequate security. Not the hackers.

I don't see how you can look at it that way. That's like condoning thievery as long as the stuff you stole wasn't properly secured.

If a car is left running and it's stolen it's not grand thieft auto.
Sony left the keys in the ignition of their brand new car and parked in the wrong part of town. Yes whoever stole the car is in the wrong but its sonys fault for not preventing this by just taking out the fucking keys.
This could have been avoided easily by taking the time to make sure they had appropriate security. The fact that they didn't I take as a huge fuck you from sony.

Sony fuck you too. Im boycotting you now too.

[irixith]

How are you all assuming that Sony has done something wrong here? No-one knows how these hackers got in. Was it poor security? Social engineering? Some sort of masterful hack?

You can't condemn Sony until all the information is available.

[AmishSamurai]

I choose to join the "I'm disappointed with both" party. While Sony could have done better with security, blaming them entirely isn't right either.

[Flake]

How are you all assuming that Sony has done something wrong here? No-one knows how these hackers got in. Was it poor security? Social engineering? Some sort of masterful hack?

You can't condemn Sony until all the information is available.

Sony has a privileged inner network that modded PS3's were able to get into by spoofing developer / reviewer / trusted PS3's.

And then three bad things happened:

-Sony had no check at this level to determine if these modded PS3's were the real deal.

-Sony had no barrier at this level to prevent fake credit card numbers from being uploaded and 'free' PSN content from being downloaded.

-In this inner network, unknown persons were able to get unencrypted copies of PSN members credit card numbers, addresses, passwords, the keys-to-the-castle.

I guess Sony could have kicked some puppies over bridges to seal the deal but at this point I think it's okay to be angry at Sony for their incompetence.

[MrPopo]

Be angry at Sony's lack of adequate security. Not the hackers.

I don't see how you can look at it that way. That's like condoning thievery as long as the stuff you stole wasn't properly secured.

If a car is left running and it's stolen it's not grand thieft auto.

What? Yes it is. Just a quick google search turns up a few results that indicate that taking possession of someone's vehicle without their consent, no matter how possession was taken, all falls under the same law:

http://criminal.lawyers.com/ask-a-lawye ... -7377.html
http://www.ehow.com/about_6620962_state ... o-law.html

About the only variance I've seen is that if the car isn't worth a certain amount it doesn't count, but there is still no stipulation about the prescence or absense of keys and an unlocked door.

[YoshiEgg25]

Man, if only I weren't so busy tonight. I'd have made a (crappy) comic about this ineptitude.

Ah well, there's always tomorrow. Or Thursday.

[Betamax001]

Way to go Sony. Way to go hackers. Ugh. At least I don't think i ever used my credit card on PSN, instead just getting gift cards, but still. Man. Sony should give us all 20 bucks in free monies for this!