No I expect shit to work. Long after I purchased it. The fact that you would put up with this shit just smacks of your character. I'm not the kind of pansy ass fucker to just go "oh... ok *sad face*". When I'm getting the shaft. Something breaking for NO reason (here you're making assumptions that I threw this fucking thing around and abused the hell out of it. No I used it - sparingly at that - as it should be used, well within the operation guidelines) is a breach of my statutory rights as a consumer. Go read this (especially the part about 'satisfactory quality' and then come up with an actual argument.Mod_Man_Extreme wrote: ^This.
People feeling entitled to shit is the most absolutely infuriating thing to me. You don't have a right to any warranty or service for any product, you have a privilege that is being bestowed upon you by a company. To think you're freaking sunshine and deserve a repair even after the warranty is up and you're SOL is complete bullshit. It broke, your warranty was up, end of story; if I ran a company I'd give you a grace period on a repair (which most companies have and will use if you're nice on the phone and understanding about everything) but not anything else.
Doesn't matter whether they warned me, they removed an advertised feature, and gave me an ultimatum. Lose OtherOS or lose access to Games/PSN. Lose/lose situation. NOT acceptable.Yes you own the damn box, but you don't own the rights to it's design or functionality. When you buy something you buy it as it stands, you don't buy some sort of magical wonder box that can shit rainbows. For the people that bought a PS3 with other OS Sony warned you before it happened, warned you in the update process and warned you again before you clicked yes just to be sure.
The updates are a privilege not some right. Sony doesn't have to support you but they're giving you free updates, new features, fresh content and free online services anyway instead of just selling you a box like every other generation prior.
Wait, you mean I can choose whether I'm having money stolen from my bank account, or my wallet? Why of course, why didn't you say so, of course that's fine
get a grip.You're using big words here but I don't think you actually understand them. EULAs aren't law. They are not legally binding. If the contract violates consumer law then it's not a valid contract.In North America and most of the world EULA's are a legal and binding document stating that you're not going to fuck with anything if you do thing "X" or use feature "Y". To put it simply, you're legally abolishing your consumer protection rights on that product for the sake of free services and content you otherwise wouldn't have had. In a perfect world this keeps the thieves and pirates out while also keeping cheaters at bay, in reality it gets idiots who know nothing about anything riled up about stuff they have no right to.
Complete fabrication. Get your facts straight.Plus, remember that none of this would even be a problem if NumbNuts McFucking Ginty Geohot hadn't started bragging about custom firmware and HDLoading games via an exploit in Other OS. That sorry sack of shit deserves none of my respect. He just wanted attention and to get his stupid name recognized for his 15 minutes of fame but, as shit started getting heavy and he realized he was facing the onslaught of a major corporation he enlisted help from fuckers on the internet.
But wait here's more! Even after all the bullshit and the stupid PSN outages that just got everyone who followed the rules and did nothing wrong pissed off the bastard flees the country. Oh and don't feed me that BS about how it was a "vacation trip", we all know what he was really doing by trying to get out of the country while shit was still exploding. The he chooses to conveniently come back to the US as Sony starts taking harsher legal action and start bawling to try settling over it.
Oh man, you were sounding stupid. Now you just sound ignorant. Thanks for making this argument easy buddy.Long story short, you're not entitled to anything buddy. The crap that's happened sucks for everyone, but you didn't have to keep following the group and updating. You could have stayed behind and enjoyed what amounts to a gimped and shitty version of a crappy and badly made operating system coded by high school kids and college hacker wannabe's.
Are you fucking kidding me? 'Abusing the system'. Really? I bought a product I expect to use it for as long as I want as long as I look after it. The OFT sided with me on this one. I got a replacement printer. You have absolutely no argument. To be told "no, screw you, you had it for a year, go fuck yourself" and have to accept that and move on makes me despair for the sheer amount of shit you yanks put up with. Thanks to you guys being so fucking passive maybe that's why Sony thinks they can treat consumers like shit. I can't believe you would just accept that a £60 printer breaking after 12 months is acceptable. I fucking don't. I expect my stuff to last for years. Planned obsolescence is absolutely against the law in this country and the rest of the EU. Apple got caned for not honoring a warranty on an iPod that was 13 months old because they viewed it as a 'disposable item' and that they expect people to buy them every year. That shit just does not fly over here. At all.irixith wrote:That's flat out ridiculous. You should not be (or even feel) entitled to a NEW printer after a year of usage. No-one knows how you treated it, how much usage it had, etc. You paid your 60, got the product, and used it. Yes, everything today falls apart if you look at it the wrong way, and companies should be making quality products, but that sad fact is that consumers are continually driving prices down down down with their expectations, and companies have to cut costs somewhere to be able to deliver.
If that's what you're basing your arguments on, the ridiculous consumer rights being touted in the EU/UK, I now a) understand much better and b) completely discount it because it's ridiculous.
If your printer broke down in the first 2 weeks or something, that would be a completely different story .. but a year! Outrageous! (Edit: A repair service I could maybe see, but a complete replacement? No. That's not protecting consumer rights, that's just abusing the system.)
That kind of thinking is just completely fucking insane.
I feel honored, that's the first Citizen Kane clap I've ever gotten.
