optmusprimenumber wrote:brunoafh wrote:He probably meant innovators, bands with a unique sound to offer.
Yeah that
...and about "overproduced" I'm talking about on the recordings. They
should sound as good if not better live... some bands, usually, despite being over or under or appropriately produced sound better live than on record (Tub Ring for example) but typically all bands (that I've seen) sound better live simply because it is live, music is best experienced live. For metal to sound good live it takes three things: competent musicians, competent equipment, and above all, volume. KSE sounding good live really says nothing about the overproduced sound of their records.
Metal is really a primitive genre no matter how shreddy and it must be improved upon, not retreaded. KSE are cave men compared to some of the stuff that's going on. (Iwrestledabearonce anyone?)
Additionally (I may have mentioned them already), I'd like to submit that Car Bomb (the band, not the Acacia Strain song) is one of the most brutal and mindblowing metal bands this decade to come out of the "hardcore" petri dish. And as we all probably know, Hardcore had a lot to do with the emergence of "metal core", so did nu metal... sigh.
i disagree with almost everything you just said here.
the problem i have with KSE and bands like them (and even into bands like whitechapel, iwrestledabearonce, job for a cowboy, etc) is that they have no heart. the music feels so empty and formulaic. the lyrics are typically meaningless or pulled straight from some dude's livejournal, with trite "poetic" moments and hackneyed "dark" imagery.
it ultimately boils down to personal preference, and i just don't really like the direction that killswitch have gone, and i really don't like most nu-metalcore or nu-grind bands. i just think it sucks. i would rather listen to a band (or more correctly, an album or a song) with genuinely provocative lyrics, solid song structuring/layering, and modest production.
there's an all-ages venue right near my house called the emerson theater. it's pretty well-known for being the longest running all-ages spot in indianapolis, and thousands of bands have played there. i have a lot of history with this place, i've seen hundreds of shows there and made some great memories (i met my first girlfriend there, i've played for 40 people and for 400 people there, i cracked my skull open diving off the stage half-naked and completely wasted on top of an inflatable dolphin in front of my own mother, etc) . currently, the owners have gone in a very disappointing direction and have started to cater more towards this type of crowd, and it's the most awful thing in the world to me. there's always a line of pink-haired, tight-jeaned high schoolers ready to mosh. maybe this is why i don't like bands like this, like i take it personally, because someone is taking something that i truly love and care about and bastardizing it to the point of it feeling like a sales pitch. i don't always want to go see a band that's all about nonsense and selfishness. i just want some substance. i don't feel like i get it from this current musical climate.
i think everyone would be much better off if we all just listened to botch.
/rant
