Captain America: The First Avenger Official Trailer

[OldSchool_Boy]

Pretty hit or miss director

Great movies are ALL about who directs them. I'm skeptical of this movie now

No credit to the writers? The writing team seems to know how to adapt source material and with an uncredited Joss Whedon behind the script, it seems to be heading in a good direction.

since iron man was relatively successful, this film will be made in the same style as iron man. this is fact. you know it yourself, deep down.

The same style as in Good?

[aaron]

here's an example:

spiderman is successful and (relatively) pretty good.

then came daredevil.

then came elektra.

[OldSchool_Boy]

here's an example:

spiderman is successful and (relatively) pretty good.

then came daredevil.

then came elektra.

I don't know if the last generation of Marvel films are in line with the new continuity being done now but I understand what your saying.

Your saying because of the success of One film (Iron Man) that the following movies (Captain America) will just follow the formula set by the first one (Iron Man). I disagree with that but I respect your opinion.

[AppleQueso]

Pretty hit or miss director

Great movies are ALL about who directs them. I'm skeptical of this movie now

No credit to the writers? The writing team seems to know how to adapt source material and with an uncredited Joss Whedon behind the script, it seems to be heading in a good direction.

Joss Whedon wrote Alien Resurrection too. Didn't stop that movie from being terrible.

[OldSchool_Boy]

Pretty hit or miss director

Great movies are ALL about who directs them. I'm skeptical of this movie now

No credit to the writers? The writing team seems to know how to adapt source material and with an uncredited Joss Whedon behind the script, it seems to be heading in a good direction.

Joss Whedon wrote Alien Resurrection too. Didn't stop that movie from being terrible.

Which then fulfills the circle that its possible to have a good script and bad director.

[AppleQueso]

No credit to the writers? The writing team seems to know how to adapt source material and with an uncredited Joss Whedon behind the script, it seems to be heading in a good direction.

Joss Whedon wrote Alien Resurrection too. Didn't stop that movie from being terrible.

Which then fulfills the circle that its possible to have a good script and bad director.

Which means that if Captian America has a bad director it won't matter how the writers handle it...

(Plus, I don't know if I'd say Resurrection had a good script, unless Whedon was aiming for some kind of campy self-parody)

[OldSchool_Boy]

Which means that if Captian America has a bad director it won't matter how the writers handle it...

(Plus, I don't know if I'd say Resurrection had a good script, unless Whedon was aiming for some kind of campy self-parody)

Yep it does mean that. Every bad film is the cause of either bad direction or writing when it comes to the source of it. No doubt. But the original post I put was a response to GameforLife saying that "great movies are all about who directs". I just replied saying that credit should also go to the writers as well and because of Joss Whedon's involvement with the project, it seems to go in a good direction.

All you did was just put up a film that was written by him about 5 times and even though he was quoted saying

"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable."

You tried to say something that wasn't necessary.

Joss Whedon wrote Alien Resurrection too. Didn't stop that movie from being terrible.

[AppleQueso]

Which means that if Captian America has a bad director it won't matter how the writers handle it...

(Plus, I don't know if I'd say Resurrection had a good script, unless Whedon was aiming for some kind of campy self-parody)

Yep it does mean that. Every bad film is the cause of either bad direction or writing when it comes to the source of it. No doubt. But the original post I put was a response to GameforLife saying that "great movies are all about who directs". I just replied saying that credit should also go to the writers as well and because of Joss Whedon's involvement with the project, it seems to go in a good direction.

All you did was just put up a film that was written by him about 5 times and even though he was quoted saying

"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable."

You tried to say something that wasn't necessary.

Joss Whedon wrote Alien Resurrection too. Didn't stop that movie from being terrible.

So you agree then, a director will make or break a film. Which is exactly what GamerForLife said...

[Gamerforlife]

To me a director is the quality control. If a line from the script doesn't work, they talk to the writers and get it changed. If an actor is not playing a part right, the director coaches them. If something is wrong with the lighting or set design, a director needs to spot it. Any team falls apart without a good leader and that's what the director is.

I know it doesn't compare to a Hollywood production, but when I did plays in high school, we had a professional director who had worked on professional theatre shows. She was a professional who really knew her stuff and for the life of me I don't know how my school managed to get her services. She controlled EVERY aspect of the shows we did. She had final say on everything...and it was her job to spot ANYTHING wrong with the performance from make up, stage design, lighting, script problems, pretty much everything

[Gamerforlife]

And if you look at Joss Whedon's best movie-Serenity-it is the only movie where he was the director and had complete creative control over every aspect of the movie-unlike that Aliens movie or the original Buffy movie, neither of which turned out the way he wanted.