Does the Amen break bother you?

[noiseredux]

Its basic 4 count and easy for people to follow, call me when someone writes a song in 5/4

Lots of Venetian Snares songs are in weird time signatures like 7/4 and 11/4.

7/4 is his typical.

BTW "Time Out" by Brubek is 5/4. So is "5/4 = Unity" by Pavement (duh).

[Bradtemple87]

Planet X deliberately avoids writing material in 4/4 for the most part.

YOU WIN, for knowing who those musicians are!

[Bradtemple87]

Its basic 4 count and easy for people to follow, call me when someone writes a song in 5/4

There's loads of compound time songs out there. Famous ones too. Take Five, Strangler's Golden Brown (strictly 3/4 then a bar of 4/4 then it codas to a 3/4 with a 5/4 if memory serves), Pink Floyd's Money (7/4 apart from that god-awful 4/4 solo), Radiohead's 2+2=5 (which is in so many time signatures I struggle to count it), The first part of Number of the Beast is in 5/4 (seriously count the down beats, you will get to 10 and then it repeats, it's actually 5/4, you've just counted the quavers as they're easier to count), Vicarious by Tool is in 5/4, YYZ by Rush is a very famous one in 5/4. That's just off the top of my head.

Pretty much every Dream Theater song uses several different time signatures. The solo part of the Dance of Eternity has 73 time signature changes over 110 bars alone. It goes, 5/8-5/8-7/8-5/8-7/8-5/8-5/8-7/8-4/4-3/4-3/4 next section 8/4-7/4-6/4-6/4-8/4-7/4 *breathes* 6/8-3/4-6/8-3/4-3/4-3/4-6/8-3/4-6/8-5/8-3/4-4/4-3/4 aaaaand so on. Seriously, go ahead and count it: It's the part after the trill.

Right that's my single geek musician post of the year.


Edit: How can I forget my favourite musicians 'in-joke' which is Meshuggah's New Millennium Cyanide Christ which is in 23/16 and then wanders off on it's own drifting between 13/16, 5/8 9/16 and I think even some 7/16 and 9/16 thrown in for good measure. The drums however stick a rock solid 4/4 throughout the entire song. Yay for drummers...

Excellent musical knowledge, and I love it because I know exactly what you are referencing in all of those songs. Good form sir, good form.

[J T]

BTW "Time Out" by Brubek is 5/4.

You mean "Take 5" on the album Time Out. Time Out uses lots of different time signatures. My favorite is "Blue Rondo A La Turk" where he uses a 9/8 time signature, but he changes the emphasis of the notes in the 9/8 structure so it goes something like this

(emphasis on the 1's)

1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3
*repeat*

[Bradtemple87]

BTW "Time Out" by Brubek is 5/4.

You mean "Take 5" on the album Time Out. Time Out uses lots of different time signatures. My favorite is "Blue Rondo A La Turk" where he uses a 9/8 time signature, but he changes the emphasis of the notes in the 9/8 structure so it goes something like this

(emphasis on the 1's)

1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3
*repeat*

Correct you are JT. I noticed that but I didn't feel like leaving three posts in a row. Dave Brubeck is exceptional. That record still has strong sales. I think the more modern piano player that is always out of the box is still Chick Corea. I have seen him live three or four times in different combos and he is always SUPER busy in his play style. The return to forever group never gets old. On a side note about those musicians, when I saw Al Di meola a couple years ago the power was lost on the entire block of SF. He played acoustic guitar with the emergency lights on!

[J T]

I forgot I had this picture saved on my hard drive. It is the wave form for the amen break mapped onto the proportions of the human body. Fibonacci in effect.

[Niode]

I forgot I had this picture saved on my hard drive. It is the wave form for the amen break mapped onto the proportions of the human body. Fibonacci in effect.

[noiseredux]

BTW "Time Out" by Brubek is 5/4.

You mean "Take 5" on the album Time Out. Time Out uses lots of different time signatures. My favorite is "Blue Rondo A La Turk" where he uses a 9/8 time signature, but he changes the emphasis of the notes in the 9/8 structure so it goes something like this

(emphasis on the 1's)

1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-3
1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3
*repeat*

yes that's what I meant. I often think and type at different speeds. "Blue Rondo" is so ridiculously awesome. I had no idea what it's signature was. Anyway, as cliche as it is -- Time Out is definitely still my favorite Brubeck album.

[saturnfan]

I never noticed it before, nor did I know it existed, so I guess no it never did bother me.

[J T]

I forgot I had this picture saved on my hard drive. It is the wave form for the amen break mapped onto the proportions of the human body. Fibonacci in effect.

Ah, I haven't watched that in awhile. I forgot it had all of those golden rectangle film edits. I have that album/dvd. It's great stuff for meditating to, both the music and the imagery.

I feel strangely about BT's music in general though. He's like this level 4000 music production mega warlock, but I don't really feel a lot of soul in much of his pieces. Like the fact that he programmed This Binary Universe entirely in code and it sounds so lovely is this astounding and staggeringly complicated technical achievement. At the same time, a lot of the music lacks passion. It's like he has achieved this mathematical perfection in his music such that few can comprehend its utter brilliance, but in that perfection, some of the humanity has been stripped out of it.

BT is like some sad robot that is too smart for us all and just wants to feel, so he tries desperately hard to belong by impressing us with his superior technical knowledge, and we are impressed and think he's shiny and cool, but ultimately never fully accept him as human.