Anyone have any Twin Galaxies records here?

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Re: Anyone have any Twin Galaxies records here?

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Hobie-wan wrote:PC games would be too easy to cheat and hack. The only way I could see them accepting any PC records was if you played it on their computer at their facility under watchful eyes.
They allow MAME submissions and that also runs on a PC. They use a special build that records data but such programas have been in use by the PC community for very long. (Quake speedruns, for example)

It's also kind of naïve as there's little to cheat that cannot be seen on a screen or that can't be done on many console games as easily. If you are going to alter the code, I'm sure you can buy a repro with your differently coded Super Mario Bros.

The reason they give is that games may run differently under different hardware. They think it isn't fair if I have twice as much RAM as you even if the game runs in your PC perfectly.

With the exeption of some old games that had bad coding in them and their speed depends on the CPU speed (Theme Park comes to mind) there's no difference playing Half Life in my computer or yours.

In fact, many PC games can record demos so cheating on those is practically impossible.

I think they haven't taken PC submisions seriously into consideration.
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Re: Anyone have any Twin Galaxies records here?

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General_Norris wrote: The reason they give is that games may run differently under different hardware. They think it isn't fair if I have twice as much RAM as you even if the game runs in your PC perfectly.
That makes sense. When we were doing the shumps.com thing last fall, one guy was having PC issues and the game was running half speed in MAME.
With the exeption of some old games that had bad coding in them and their speed depends on the CPU speed (Theme Park comes to mind) there's no difference playing Half Life in my computer or yours.

In fact, many PC games can record demos so cheating on those is practically impossible.
FPS games would be easy to cheat though. If you were to enable god mode via a config file as long as you didn't do anything obvious like walk through fire without taking damage or have a rocket explode in your face, It would be hard to say whether or not whether enemies with small projectiles were just 'nearly missing you' all the time. Or maybe you tweaked something where you jumped a little further to make parts easier.

Hacking console or arcade is harder than changing something in a config file that will change something obvious to the player, but not someone watching a video is really easy.
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