I'm pretty angry right now

[Ack]

Banning cosplay sounds like a good step.

co-sign.

I don't know, I feel there are certain situations in which it can be allowed.



Just saying.

[gennss]

With ack on that one....

[fastbilly1]

It happens to most of the bigger conventions eventually. From their perspective they just saved alot of staff and hardware that can be used in another area. Now I am not sure how Spanish conventions work, but I know in the USA most of the major conventions have backing from major companies that mandate what can be shown/played. Heck even my convention had Sony approach us with an offer like that. We almost took them up on it since they would have brought in their own equipment and staff, but then we could not have had tournaments the same way we had been having them.

[Erik_Twice]

It happens to most of the bigger conventions eventually. From their perspective they just saved alot of staff and hardware that can be used in another area.

Well, around here the organization of the event doesn't run many things only the event itself and major things like the Cosplay and Karaoke.

The other activities are run by small clubs or organizations like your local videogame club so they do not save any staff or hardware because those are the ones who put the staff and harware.

Those clubs pay to organize such activities and if they can't...Well, what's the point of going?

I know in the USA most of the major conventions have backing from major companies that mandate what can be shown/played.

Uggh, that doesn't look fun. For starters it kills any chance for competitive gaming and monopolies do not lead to fun either, no wonder you didn't accept the offer.


I think that all this leads to a change in control from the fans to corporations and thta's goes against the very spirit of those events in the first place =/

I just don't know, it seems such bad way to run things. I kind of expect the scene to take a hard hit when this settles and that sucks. I mean, I can do something but they are the ones who run the major evenst and are given the money to do "cultural" stuff.

[fastbilly1]

Those clubs pay to organize such activities and if they can't...Well, what's the point of going?

Now that is really interesting. Here if a club elects to organize/run things they are let in for free, not charged - since they are a benefit to the organization. For my con we have groups run different things, but we have our staff in every room at most every minute of the convention. We had Bestbuy run a videogame room last year. They brought in new tvs, consoles, games, and staffed it. We still had a person in the room just to be safe.

Uggh, that doesn't look fun. For starters it kills any chance for competitive gaming and monopolies do not lead to fun either, no wonder you didn't accept the offer.

It is a cyclical beast. It will eventually hollow out the bigger cons and bring the smaller ones back to the forefront. Thats not to say the big ones are going anywhere, it just means they will slowly become more and more like an industry show and lose the heart that they once had. It also means little shows will grow bigger when people go looking for that feeling again.

My con is unique in that we are free. We will probably have over 10k people next year and we still have the heart of a small con, probably since it is put on by the skin of our teeth every year.

[Erik_Twice]

Now that is really interesting. Here if a club elects to organize/run things they are let in for free, not charged - since they are a benefit to the organization.

I think your model is better overall and makes more sense for a "big" convention than the one they use around here. They treat clubs here like a kind of shop, completely missing the point, without those clubs those convetions would be deader than dead.

You can imagine that having to pay and not being able to run the stuff you want is only going to make less people go there.

It also disjoints the economy of the event as the activities and the cost of entry are unrelated. This leads to things like paying a trip to Japan for the winners of the cosplay event. That event is free and only allows 50 people at most so you can see it being a waste cool or not.

For one, I know that the fanzines are very pissed off because they get the short end of the stick all the time (They paid 100 euro and they didn't even get a single chair). The RPG clubs are looked down upon the organization because "that's not what the public wants" (However, paying a thousand to bring a crappy comic book author nobody ever heard of is what the public wants).

And that's the second most important convention in Spain after Barcelona's.

It is a cyclical beast. It will eventually hollow out the bigger cons and bring the smaller ones back to the forefront. Thats not to say the big ones are going anywhere, it just means they will slowly become more and more like an industry show and lose the heart that they once had. It also means little shows will grow bigger when people go looking for that feeling again.

You are very right. I hope it happens that way here instead of just dissapearing.

My con is unique in that we are free. We will probably have over 10k people next year and we still have the heart of a small con, probably since it is put on by the skin of our teeth every year.

Wow, 10K people is a lot of people. I very much doubt they have half that amount around here.

[Luke]

I don't know, I feel there are certain situations in which it can be allowed.



Just saying.

Wow.

Just.....

Wow.