D.D.D. wrote:AFAIK the only way you can "legally pirate" games is: mod your system to play back-ups, buy said desired game, make copy of said game, sell game, rinse and repeat. That way, at the time of ownership, you were entitled to back-up your bought game and as the owner, you can sell it too. But that seems like an awful lot of work to make yourself feel the right to pirate.
EDIT: to summarize, yr only legally allowed to own a backup of a game that is in yr possession. If you sell the game, you sell the right to own that backup along with it.
Ugh.....I'm tired of all these white knights here who are so anti-piracy.
You're absolutely in the clear backing up/burning most pre-2002 games. I WILL say...if a game you want is available on http://www.gog.com/en/frontpage/ it would be very nice to buy it there. But there are SO many great PC games where the devs will never make another penny...and the only person making a profit is the jerk on ebay selling the original discs for $50.
BigTinz wrote:Ugh.....I'm tired of all these white knights here who are so anti-piracy.
And I'm tired of all the people who make claims about piracy being right or wrong who are not lawyers. I'm not a lawyer and I don't think any racketboy member is either (I could be wrong though).
Everybody do your own thing and please just try not to argue about whether it's legal or not. (I'm not trying to instigate an argument. Don't freak out please.)
Calling piracy piracy isn't making a value judgment on it. Copying games that haven't been released to the public domain is illegal. I believe that law is wrong, but it's important that people know the actual legal status in reality.
What we need less of is people harping on others for committing a tort that they are not a victim of. Unless you own the copyright I am infringing upon, I don't really care what you think about my piracy.
We are prepared to live in the plain and die in the plain!
i buy physical copies because it makes me actually want to play the game. can't really explain it. i just get more stoked about buying, cleaning then playing old carts as opposed to loading them up on an emulator. i dont think emulation is evil for the sheer fact that some games are just stupid expensive, but i guess the novelty of playing it on its original system is enough for me.
Oh, come on, don't leave your uncle T-Bag hangin'!
also, hunting is really fun. i love being able to find games on the cheap, and comparing and contrasting how much i paid to how much they would be if i got them off ebay, etc.
Oh, come on, don't leave your uncle T-Bag hangin'!
BigTinz wrote:Ugh.....I'm tired of all these white knights here who are so anti-piracy.
You're absolutely in the clear backing up/burning most pre-2002 games. I WILL say...if a game you want is available on http://www.gog.com/en/frontpage/ it would be very nice to buy it there. But there are SO many great PC games where the devs will never make another penny...and the only person making a profit is the jerk on ebay selling the original discs for $50.
Who cares?
BTW, I don't know who was being a "white knight." The OP mentioned that he was "legally pirating" which made a few people curious what the hell he was talking about. You may have noticed that he ended up admitting that he was unclear on the legality of what he was doing. Perhaps HE cares to know what he's doing.
I personally don't care what the next person does with their games. Nor do I have any need to push my own views on anybody. But I don't really see how you telling him that he's "absolutely in the clear" pirating games as that may give him a false sense of the truth. The truth is that if he downloads say Metroid for instance (which is of course pre-2002) he's getting a ROM for free instead of buying it of the Virtual Console. Again, I don't care what he decides to do, but he is entitled to know the truth about it.
i used to pirate heavily, but it kinda devalued the experience for me. think of it as sensory-overload if you will. too many games all at once. I was like pokerom, gotta collect em all. i had so much that i didn't know where to start and it made gaming too complicated for me. It took me about 15 minutes to decide what i wanted to play and by that time, the thrill was gone. Since i've started buying games again and have built up a modest collection, gaming has been fun again. There is something about having a physical copy that just makes the experience different, for me anyway. It has been said many times over, but there is nothing like playing software on the hardware it was designed for. Playing on the controller it was meant for. Besides, a CIB games smells nice too This is all just my personal opinion and feelings without getting into the legalities. But i have been struggling with what's the difference between buying used and pirating tho. I know i know, it has to do with copyrights. it's just a shame nothing goes back to the devs when a used game is bought.
Hatta wrote:Calling piracy piracy isn't making a value judgment on it. Copying games that haven't been released to the public domain is illegal.
Bingo. I don't think anyone on this thread has made any moral pronouncement about piracy.
BigTinz wrote:
You're absolutely in the clear backing up/burning most pre-2002 games.
I wouldn't go this far. But yes, your chances of being caught or prosecuted are really, really low if you're just pirating old stuff.
Given the more recent popularity of re-releasing old games as downloadable titles, though, I wouldn't be to terribly surprised if some of the wealthier companies decided to crack down a little harder on people pirating old games.
latenitevacancy wrote:i buy physical copies because it makes me actually want to play the game.
THIS. BigTinz clearly thinks I'm some sort of "white knight," but I've done my share of pirating roms for older consoles. When I just downloaded a game for free, I didn't value them. When I dug through thrift stores to find them, I did. And I stuck with games longer and enjoyed playing them more. I did stop pirating for moral reasons, but even before that I just didn't enjoy pirated games as much as ones I legitimately owned.
Don't freak out please.)
