The 15 Most Offensive Video Games Ever Made (PC World)

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I figured about half of those that were on there. I'm sort of surprised that Carmageddon was only mentioned at the top and not on the list actually. DKP 50 minus for using the cliche "throwing up your mouth" in #3. :P
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Something causing offense is easy, it being bad is another thing.

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Even consentual sex is seen as more offensive that killing thousansds of people so I can't say I'm really surprised.
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Why is it okay to kill people in games, but when a game involving rape is made, it's the most disgusting thing ever?
Perhaps because, more often than not, in games where we shoot people, we play as the good guys, and kill bad guys - so therefore we're still a force for overall good.
However, rape can never really be a force for good under any circumstances.
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Incognito D wrote:Why is it okay to kill people in games, but when a game involving rape is made, it's the most disgusting thing ever?
Perhaps because, more often than not, in games where we shoot people, we play as the good guys, and kill bad guys - so therefore we're still a force for overall good.
However, rape can never really be a force for good under any circumstances.
Perhaps, but I'd personally say the ends never justifies the means. You're still killing people - and how often have you seen a protagonist in a video game have remorse over killing? Personally, I can't remember a time. I've seen it in books, in movies, TV, hell, even cartoons.

Usually, even the saintliest good guys in video games react to killing bad guys with a smile and a laugh - sometimes even a witty comeback or a snappy line, mocking their late opponent. Are they then no better than that the bad guys?
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I don't think many of you know how to use to word "offensive". Let's bring out a good old definition.

"1. Disagreeable to the senses: an offensive odor.
2. Causing anger, displeasure, resentment, or affront: an offensive gesture."

Guess what! Rape is offensive! It's not whether or not you find it offensive; if other people do, and a good amount of people do, it is! So yes, Rapeplay is totally offensive! So is MW2, and judging by the media reaction, probably more so than any other game on the list!

Now if we're taking abiout whether or not it is offensive to you, that's a different story, and you should probably note that in your response. If that wasn't your intention, well then, you're wrong! huzah!

Also, rape is pretty sickening, fake or not. If you're living out some sort of primal urge through those games and enjoy it, which is what these fetish games are made for, seek help. While in the hands of a sane person, it could be an interesting look at a pretty terrible fetish, you could also argue that it glorifies the act and maybe even instigates it... though I don't know if I would go that far. However, free expression dictates that this shit should be allowed no matter what, and I agree with that. I can hate it all I want but I can't say that I would ever want it to be barred from existence... but now I'm getting into a whole nother subject.
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Hatta wrote:
irixith wrote: I guess all I'm really trying to say is that rape is bad, and just because it's fictional doesn't make it less so.
Yes, it does. If you're not hurting anyone, you're not doing anything wrong. Period.
It certainly makes it less bad. How would it not? As Hatta said it harms no one. You could argue that it is still bad, but to put it in the same state of "bad" as actual rape, well then who are you trying to kid?
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I'm not saying rape isn't offensive - just that I find it pretty sad that it is considered more offensive than murder. No doubt, rape is definitely the second worst thing you can do to a person - but number one should be ending a life.

Personally, I just find stuff like "Ethnic Cleansing" to be most offensive to me. Games like this are actively pushing an agenda, which makes them worse that the games that are simply providing mindless entertainment that plays on primal urges of domination (through sex or through violence).

Of course, I support all of it existing in media. So long as no living person is being victimized, it should be allowable. If I don't like it, I don't partake of it. I mean, personally, I've never played RapeLay - or any of the games on this list aside from MW2, actually - and I have no desire to. I'm perfectly fine just leaving them be.

Maybe if they made a game that was about and promoting the censoring of media, I'd be more inclined to see it banned. (If for no reason other than the delicious irony.)
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the7k wrote: No doubt, rape is definitely the second worst thing you can do to a person - but number one should be ending a life.
I always think of Rape as the 3rd worst thing you can do.

1.) Murder
2.) Torture/disfigurement
3.) Rape (even though its a form of torture, I would rather be raped than have body parts cut off.)

Since Americans find rape more offensive than murder, maybe instead of killing people in wars we should just rape them. Think about it, you think terroist would still fight if they knew that if they got caught they would get raped? That was a joke by the way.
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Well, some weeks ago I talked about the issue of fictional depravity with a friend, and I brought up something I read on IMDB about someone accusing anyone who wasn't disgusted by a rape scene of being a horrible person, and as I said to my friend: One could just as well say that person is more depraved than the people he was attacking for choosing to believe something that is not an abhorrable act actually is - when I see things like that in movies or games, I acknowledge that it is pretending and don't choose to think of it as real. If one chooses - and it's always a choice - to believe something that is not rape actually is, then that would be their problem.

For what it's worth, I do believe a movie or a videogame could instigate an abhorrable act, but it can't make a person capable of doing it - in other words, if they instigate an act then the want to do it was already there.
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the7k wrote:
Incognito D wrote:Why is it okay to kill people in games, but when a game involving rape is made, it's the most disgusting thing ever?
Perhaps because, more often than not, in games where we shoot people, we play as the good guys, and kill bad guys - so therefore we're still a force for overall good.
However, rape can never really be a force for good under any circumstances.
Perhaps, but I'd personally say the ends never justifies the means. You're still killing people - and how often have you seen a protagonist in a video game have remorse over killing? Personally, I can't remember a time. I've seen it in books, in movies, TV, hell, even cartoons.
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