Do you believe in god?

[Limewater]

Also, Limewater and BigTinz you guys seriously shouldn't be calling people trolls.

Oh, I don't deny the occasional troll.

However, I do think I sometimes come off as more trollish than I intend. I believe that part of that is the communication barrier inherent in text communication (as well as inherent in myself). Also, I think I tend to be a little more conversational than would probably be appropriate on a message board.

But yeah, I fully admit to being trollish.

[axlryder]

Just so you guys know, you cannot choose whether you believe in a God or not. You can't, if you do, you're just lying to yourself.

You believe what makes sense to you, you cannot decide. You can, however, go out and find facts to change your viewpoint, but what you believe is still involuntary.

Anyone that believes in God after being presented with facts and statistics against them pretty much have to be lying to themselves. No matter how far down the lie goes, the part of your brain that really counts knows he doesn't exist.

Which leads me to think, why do people lie to themselves like this? It's one thing to do it for social reasons, but it's just stupid to do it to get into heaven. If God does exist, he's all knowing. Lying like that is just stupid, he knows the truth.

Also, if someone says they believe in God, but then say "I don't care that you don't. Just accept that I do and I'll except that you don't." is dumb. That's just another way to get out of defending your point, and also, one of the things God would want you to do is spread your belief.

lol, there are no facts or statistics that disprove the existence of god. For instance, Steven Hawking claims god does not need to exists for the universe to have come from nothing, but that doesn't mean that the universe DID come from nothing, and furthermore, one would have to ask where the "nothing" came from. Is our belief in God just Ego pandering? Maybe, but that doesn't mean my belief is a delusion.

[Luke]

I know what I believe in: This thread is pointless.

We all know that all dogs go to heaven.

And as heated as this discussion gets it is irrelevant, because people are going to try to prove there is or is not a God (other than the God of rock and roll, which is also debatable), which is impossible. You might as well ask the question "If there is a God what did he do before creating the universe?".

Wait. Don't ask that either.

My opinion? Natalie Portman is here for a reason. Take that anyway you'd like.

[Gamerforlife]

I know what I believe in: This thread is pointless.

We all know that all dogs go to heaven.

And as heated as this discussion gets it is irrelevant, because people are going to try to prove there is or is not a God (other than the God of rock and roll, which is also debatable), which is impossible. You might as well ask the question "If there is a God what did he do before creating the universe?".

Wait. Don't ask that either.

My opinion? Natalie Portman is here for a reason. Take that anyway you'd like.

LOL, good points. It probably is a pointless thread I supposse. I wanted to comment on the "if there is a God what did he do before creating the universe" line though

It made me think of something interesting I heard someone say once. He said if we did prove there is a god, we would then have to figure out if there are other beings like God. Sort of like the whole, are there other universes question. I thought that was a fascinating thought

Anyway, to each his own. I've already expressed my opinion on the subject

[slowslow325]

Ugh.

I don't want to reply to responses to myself, but I guess I have to.

First of all, you don't have a choice over everything in life. You believe what you believe, it's in your brain, you can't change that. If I told you to believe that your legs are gone, the sky is purple, and unicorns exist, you can lie and say you do, but in your brain, you KNOW you don't. You know this by the facts you have and the world around you.

Second, I didn't mean there are facts to disprove God's existence. Learn about the Burden of Proof. When I mentioned statistics, common sense, and logic, I was adding that. Like, burden of proof is on you PLUS the statistical probablility of this being correct is low.

Third, I, as a human being, do not say there is no higher power. Heck, there may be. I say, until I get facts or something that would give me the ability to believe in your SPECIFIC higher power, I'm not able to.

Also, your last paragraph, it can easily be turned around against you. In fact, it applies more to you than to me. I don't say with certainty that there is no higher power, I just don't believe there is, currently because I can't. However, Christians, they believe WITH 100%, UNDENIABLE CERTAINTY that THEIR God is THE God. If there was a God, what are the chances it would be exactly that God? Very low.

[Octopod]

I know what I believe in: This thread is pointless.

So are tons of other threads in Off Topic. I didn't make this for people to argue, I didn't even want people to discuss the topic. I just want to see the damn poll results.

It's not to point and say "See, there are more of us than you!" or any such nonsense, which ever way the poll ends up going. I am merely curious.

[YoshiEgg25]

I know what I believe in: This thread is pointless.

I didn't make this for people to argue, I didn't even want people to discuss the topic. I just want to see the damn poll results.

I know you wrote that you were just curious, and I know you wrote to not reply, but in all seriousness, you had to have known that this was coming.

[Droid party]

you had to have known that this was coming.

I'm still impressed by how civil this has been kept considering. I spose this Racketboy and not Youtube.

[YoshiEgg25]

I'm still impressed by how civil this has been kept considering. I spose this Racketboy and not Youtube.

Good point, YouTube can be pretty bad sometimes.

[s1mplehumar]

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