Why would you assume x is an integer? x is Real. It's a complex exponential.MrPopo wrote: But that's not even a complicated number. That's equivalent to (e^(pi*i))^(2*x), which simplifies to (-1)^(2*x), which, assuming x is an integer, simplifes to 1.
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Perhaps this will shed some light on the situation (Heh, get it? Light? Sometimes I kill myself).
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It's still only one of four numbers: 1, -1, i, or -i, because it's -1 to the something.Limewater wrote:Why would you assume x is an integer? x is Real. It's a complex exponential.MrPopo wrote: But that's not even a complicated number. That's equivalent to (e^(pi*i))^(2*x), which simplifies to (-1)^(2*x), which, assuming x is an integer, simplifes to 1.
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OK, I didn't really look at your simplification earlier. Now I see the problem.MrPopo wrote:It's still only one of four numbers: 1, -1, i, or -i, because it's -1 to the something.Limewater wrote:Why would you assume x is an integer? x is Real. It's a complex exponential.MrPopo wrote: But that's not even a complicated number. That's equivalent to (e^(pi*i))^(2*x), which simplifies to (-1)^(2*x), which, assuming x is an integer, simplifes to 1.
You can't just apply the power property of exponentials willy-nilly when you have a complex numbers involved.
As an example, look at e^(pi*i) and e^(2*pi*i). e^(pi*i) is -1, and e^(2*pi*i) is 1. However, if we apply the power rule, we can write e^(pi*i) as (e^(2*pi*i))^(0.5). This would simplify to 1^0.5, or simply 1. This does not equal -1. This counterexample shows that the power rule does not hold for complex exponentials.
If you're sticking with Real numbers, you're fine, though.
e^(i*r) (where r is a Real number) equals cos(r) + i*sin(r) (Euler's Formula).
So, e^(i*2*pi*x) equals cos(2*pi*x) + i*sin(2*pi*x). For x between 0 and 1, each unique value of x gives a unique point on the unit circle. In this case, the unit circle would be on the complex plane. This is usually denoted with the Real component corresponding to the x axis, and the Imaginary component corresponding to the y axis.
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Ah hah, did not know that the power rule doesn't apply with complex exponents. I knew e^i*pi as random math trivia and I've seen the Euler's formula proof of how it turns into 1. Looking it again I see how the power rule chokes and dies. You'll have to forgive my gaff; it's been several years since calculus.
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Ha. No problem. I'm just part of the relatively small portion of society who actually see this stuff on a regular basis. Otherwise, I'd have never made the joke in the first place. Come to think of it, I probably shouldn't have made the joke here.MrPopo wrote:Ah hah, did not know that the power rule doesn't apply with complex exponents. I knew e^i*pi as random math trivia and I've seen the Euler's formula proof of how it turns into 1. Looking it again I see how the power rule chokes and dies. You'll have to forgive my gaff; it's been several years since calculus.
I think I just realized that my real-life associates are nerdier than my online associates. I don't know what to make of that.
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