Vote for the New Genre Forum Section

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What Genre Forum Section Should Be Added? (Pick 2)

Sports
5
3%
Adventure
28
18%
Action
10
6%
Platformers
55
34%
FPS
25
16%
Racing
6
4%
Puzzle/Rhythm
16
10%
Quirky/Offbeat
15
9%
 
Total votes: 160

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Re: Vote for the New Genre Forum Section

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Do I seem like the type that needs a platforming lesson? 3D platformers? Really? :lol:

But really, yeah, some platformers had high scores, especially in the early days (as they mimicked the arcade era that came previously), but are any of them well utilized? In Ikaruga, high scores are garnered via comboing groups of three similarly colored enemies, which leads to extremely complex patterns - never mind dot eatting. People literally play that game daily for years hoping to perfect it. Games like DonPachi require the players to space out each individual kill in such a way that the combo goes higher and higher - space out kills too slowly and the combo dies. Psyvariar 2 involves grazing as close to bullets as possible to gain brief invulnerability and higher scores. In Ketsui, the closer you are to an enemy when killed, the higher the score bonus.

And by scaling difficulty, I meant this:
Sure, most games have scaling difficulty... but not the kind that brings people back to the exact same game daily for years.

An important distinction here is that platformers, by and large, weren't designed for the arcade. Where arcade games had a larger incentive to get the players pumping as many quarters as possible into the game, console games had the incentive to get the players to buy as many games as possible. High scores were tacked onto games like Super Mario Bros. because that's what Nintendo did in arcade games like Donkey Kong before them. The first three Super Mario Bros. games are the hardest in the series and they still don't even approach the difficulty of the average shooter. Shooters have been painstakingly hard since R-Type and Darius and they've only gotten harder. Platformers have gone in the opposite route - they've gotten easier over time to appease the masses. I think homebrew is where the most platforming development has come over the last few years, with games like I Wanna Be the Guy and the brilliant VVVVVV - both of which are extremely hard to master.

As for the decades, I didn't think it was relevant to speak of the exact history of FPS and shooters, when the popularity of said genres came decades later.
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Just a question. When you say the first three, do you mean 1, Japanese 2, and 3? Or 1, 2, 3?
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I meant the Japanese second. I thought I should perhaps clarify, but didn't think it mattered too much (besides that the American version is the easiest of the NES Marios).
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crux wrote:As for the decades, I didn't think it was relevant to speak of the exact history of FPS and shooters, when the popularity of said genres came decades later.
Shoot, you should see me talk about fighting games! Hahaha.
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Wait you don't think Donkey Kong is a platformer? Maybe I am wrong but didn't platformers start in arcades also. And by the way you are talking you do seem like you need some lessons as Ack pointed out. We all need to be taught sometimes or how do we learn. I learned that the first FPS was made in the early 70's thanks to you and acks conversation.
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That's why I said "by and large"! Damn nitpickers...

Honestly, I don't know how to make the distinctions when it comes to platformers. Sure, Donkey Kong looks like a platformer - there are lots of platforms, after all. But how much does the game involve jumping from platform to platform? It mostly involves jumping over barrels and climbing up ladders. He does jump over the occasional gap though, thus creating the distinction. This is where I start to voice my disdain over the term "platformer" in the first place. We think of Super Mario Bros. as a platformer because there's just so much jumping. But hell, it was hard to make a 2D side-scrolling game without having the character jump. Link even jumped in Zelda 2. Contra, Castlevania, Metroid, Flashback... sure, if we're going to lump them all into the same genre, we may as well make a platforming forum! That constitutes a majority of games in the 80's! It all seems very muddled to me though.

And of course I don't know everything - I just thought it was funny that you thought I might have been thinking about 3D platformers. I'm saddened if any retro gamer jumps to 3D games when considering platformers.
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SpaceBooger wrote:
noiseredux wrote:I also dread the outcome... I feel like if you post about say R-Type III and put it in the Nintendo category, that might be fine with some mods, but then other mods will make a point to tell you that it should have gone in Shmups. Blah blah pedantic headaches abound.
Now there is an idea. Maybe all games should be talked about in the genre sections and hardware only in the platform selections... or maybe hardware and exclusives...
Not perfect, but an idea none the less.
Sub the sub the subcategorize. Could be an issue, where would one find out about say for a game Conker? Is it in Nintendo or Microsoft or Platformers or Action-Adventure or even in the Whatever section? SEARCH tool still seems the best way.

More the reason to put a decent Title in any new personal post. A tease post Title as example: "I just bought this" or the use of uncommon acronyms doesn't help anyone. Forum should always have the Title related to content.
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CRTGAMER wrote:Sub the sub the subcategorize. Could be an issue, where would one find out about say for a game Conker? Is it in Nintendo or Microsoft or Platformers or Action-Adventure or even in the Whatever section? SEARCH tool still seems the best way.

More the reason to put a decent Title in any new personal post. A tease post Title as example: "I just bought this" or seldom the use of uncommon acronyms doesn't help anyone. Forum should always have the Title related to content.
No, so subing the subcategories.
I mean if we have categories like "platformer" then the "Nintendo" forums are not needed. So I was suggesting that if we do go with more categories like "Platformer" and "Action/Adventure" then the "Nintendo" forum would be for hardware talk... and maybe exclusives/announcements.
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SpaceBooger wrote:No, so subing the subcategories.
I mean if we have categories like "platformer" then the "Nintendo" forums are not needed. So I was suggesting that if we do go with more categories like "Platformer" and "Action/Adventure" then the "Nintendo" forum would be for hardware talk... and maybe exclusives/announcements.
Was being facetious, definitely no subs. Just feels that way already with the Genres section with my previous example. I think a lot of non-related hardware posts would still drift in to the related console not to the Genres, look at the total post counts.
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Re: Vote for the New Genre Forum Section

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So any chance for that platformers forum? It'd make talking about my favorite franches a lot easier...
Maybe now Nintendo will acknowledge Metroid has a fanbase?
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