360 Core Units Rebundled As 360 Arcade

Post by **racketboy** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:18 pm

Post by **GSZX1337** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:10 pm

This has been known for a little bit now. If you ask me, I think this really sucks. I think it was stupid for the company to come out with the first game console with a Hard Drive to come out with a next-gen console that doesn't have a Hard Drive. Well, at least the memory card is big.

Post by **Majors** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:47 pm

MS is going for price point only. Aunt Jody in Walmat on Black Friday getting an Xbox for her nephews is only gonna care about <$300. Cousin Steve can get the extra controller and HDD.

No one is putting a gun to anyones head and saying "Buy it"

But I do have a little fellow on my shoulder telling me to order a 8800gtx from newegg so I can play Crysis, CoD4 and UT3. He does not have a gun.

Post by **RadarScope1** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:07 pm

The MS execs always talk about $199 being the start of the mass market prices. This is their ticket to $199. I think they're going to slash this SKU from $279 to $199 (possibly with a wired controller or without the arcade games) in the spring ... just a few weeks before GTA 4 hits store shelves.

Then those who haven't yet gone next-gen and want to play GTA will have a choice between a $399 PS3 and $199 X360. The choice is going to be pretty weighted towards the 360 from a consumer standpoint.

I really love following the biz of gaming. It's almost like sports or politics. I don't care who "wins" because I just dig great games but it's just a lot of fun to watch.

Post by **racketboy** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:57 pm

RadarScope1 wrote:The MS execs always talk about $199 being the start of the mass market prices. This is their ticket to $199. I think they're going to slash this SKU from $279 to $199 (possibly with a wired controller or without the arcade games) in the spring ... just a few weeks before GTA 4 hits store shelves.

Then those who haven't yet gone next-gen and want to play GTA will have a choice between a $399 PS3 and $199 X360. The choice is going to be pretty weighted towards the 360 from a consumer standpoint.

I really love following the biz of gaming. It's almost like sports or politics. I don't care who "wins" because I just dig great games but it's just a lot of fun to watch.

That will be interesting -- that will probably be about the same time the Wii will drop to $199.
That will make the PS3 look ridiculous unless Sony gets their act together....

Post by **GSZX1337** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:08 am

Majors wrote:MS is going for price point only. Aunt Jody in Walmat on Black Friday getting an Xbox for her nephews is only gonna care about <$300. Cousin Steve can get the extra controller and HDD.

I know why they're doing it, to me it's like seeing Zalman, the founders of silent cooling, coming out with a small, noisy fan.

No one is putting a gun to anyones head and saying "Buy it"

But I do have a little fellow on my shoulder telling me to order a 8800gtx from newegg so I can play Crysis, CoD4 and UT3. He does not have a gun.

And I have a little Lombax on my shoulder telling me to set aside enough cash for R&C 5. He happens to be armed with a Combuster.
I also have a guy on my other shoulder telling me to get an 8800GTS 640MB before Hellgate:London comes out. October 30 is going to be an awkward day for me.

Post by **RadarScope1** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:40 am

racketboy wrote:
RadarScope1 wrote:The MS execs always talk about $199 being the start of the mass market prices. This is their ticket to $199. I think they're going to slash this SKU from $279 to $199 (possibly with a wired controller or without the arcade games) in the spring ... just a few weeks before GTA 4 hits store shelves.

Then those who haven't yet gone next-gen and want to play GTA will have a choice between a $399 PS3 and $199 X360. The choice is going to be pretty weighted towards the 360 from a consumer standpoint.

I really love following the biz of gaming. It's almost like sports or politics. I don't care who "wins" because I just dig great games but it's just a lot of fun to watch.
That will be interesting -- that will probably be about the same time the Wii will drop to $199.
That will make the PS3 look ridiculous unless Sony gets their act together....

I don't know. If Wii is still selling this well beyond Xmas I doubt if they'll drop the price. That'll increase demand and they can't meet the demand as it is. But if I believe what I'm saying, then I might have to rethink that $199 price point for the 360. They might just drop it a *little* below the Wii, say $229 - an even $50 drop, and then then can say they're cheaper than the Wii with HD and x number of games and blah blah blah.

But you're right - both those machines are going to make the ps3 look pretty ridiculous, especially a lesser library of games. A lot of hard-core people will say it's still a good value with Blu-Ray, free online and a big HDD. Really, I agree with that. But the average buyer -- Aunt Jodi in Walmart -- ain't gonna know anything about that stuff, nor will they care.

Post by **racketboy** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:44 pm

RadarScope1 wrote:
racketboy wrote:
RadarScope1 wrote:The MS execs always talk about $199 being the start of the mass market prices. This is their ticket to $199. I think they're going to slash this SKU from $279 to $199 (possibly with a wired controller or without the arcade games) in the spring ... just a few weeks before GTA 4 hits store shelves.

Then those who haven't yet gone next-gen and want to play GTA will have a choice between a $399 PS3 and $199 X360. The choice is going to be pretty weighted towards the 360 from a consumer standpoint.

I really love following the biz of gaming. It's almost like sports or politics. I don't care who "wins" because I just dig great games but it's just a lot of fun to watch.
That will be interesting -- that will probably be about the same time the Wii will drop to $199.
That will make the PS3 look ridiculous unless Sony gets their act together....
I don't know. If Wii is still selling this well beyond Xmas I doubt if they'll drop the price. That'll increase demand and they can't meet the demand as it is. But if I believe what I'm saying, then I might have to rethink that $199 price point for the 360. They might just drop it a *little* below the Wii, say $229 - an even $50 drop, and then then can say they're cheaper than the Wii with HD and x number of games and blah blah blah.

But you're right - both those machines are going to make the ps3 look pretty ridiculous, especially a lesser library of games. A lot of hard-core people will say it's still a good value with Blu-Ray, free online and a big HDD. Really, I agree with that. But the average buyer -- Aunt Jodi in Walmart -- ain't gonna know anything about that stuff, nor will they care.

Yeah, I don't know for sure when the Wii will drop, but they can't stay at $250 forever.
But I know they won't drop it until there are at least a few sitting on every major console store shelf in America.

Post by **RadarScope1** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:30 pm

First time I ever saw one on a shelf was the day I got my 360 about a month ago! Took about 10 months to see one in the wild.

Post by **racketboy** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:41 pm

RadarScope1 wrote:First time I ever saw one on a shelf was the day I got my 360 about a month ago! Took about 10 months to see one in the wild.

I'd be surprised if it was still there now.
Supposedly, my local Toys R Us had some in stock for a week or so.