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Espio 1919
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Mr. Stripe
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, and then another pawn shop which has samplers, sports games, and then the 2nd disc of D but not the first...Wow, that is a steal.lordofduct wrote:dragonforce is expensive?
what!?
I picked up 3 of them in a pawn shop for 10 bucks total... they also used to be sold on WorkingDesigns site brandnew for like 40 bucks. That's weird... kinda upsetting... it's not like the game is that rare.
::looking at ebay:: heh, there's a sealed signed copy from Victor Ireland for sale with a 200+ price tag. I wonder if that is connection with that one kid over at SegaXtreme (i think it was at SX, maybe it was sega-16 or here) who bought a copy off of ebay a few year backs and it turned out to be Victor himself selling it, so the kid asked to have it signed.
But yeah, how long ago was that? I didn't even know Working Designs had stuff for sale online.
In any case, Victor Ireland himself used to sell a handful of copies on eBay, all autographed by him already. Think they went for round US$200.
An opened, good condition DF usually fetches around US$50-60 on eBay, while Shining Force III usually costs a bit more, maybe US$70+ max. Saga, as you'd expect, is way higher, for about US$140-160 I think.
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lordofduct
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yeah, I knew that about ShiningForce3 and Saga (own them as well).
Anyways... if you want to try Grandia1, you may want to play it on the PS1. It is translated to english (sorry, but I can't stand holding a script in hand... especially in this game. There is a LOT of text, especially when you camp each night). The game looks like it's being played on a Saturn the entire time. It's kinda weird seeing the big font styles of the Saturn displayed on my PSX...
Grandia though is pretty freakin' long, and at parts just starts to drag a bit. The loading times were very annoying in my opinion (keep in mind, I'm a guy who spent HOURS level grinding in VAY on the SegaCD... loading times should not be annoying me). The battle system is amazing though, and I really liked the training you can do with specific weapons. It was very nice in my opinion. Grandia2 though really did a MUCH better job, and lost some of the really annoying cutesy gayness that is inherent in Grandia1 (keep in mind, I LOVE GameArts and even CARED about the characters in the Lunar series).
Play Grandia1 if A)you love a game for it's battle system and B) actually enjoy the story lines GameArts make. They are gay, corny, loveydovey and just soooooo adoreable... I eat em' up like tapioca pudding.
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As for Albert Odyssey. Meh, really, seriousily, meh. The soundtrack gets very repetetive and annoying. The load times are miserable, and I mean MISERABLE. Especially seeing how you get into a battle every 1.5 seconds. That damn vampire castle level was a bastard. And over all the game just really feels empty. I mean, yeah, it's just a Gaiden... but still, give me a LITTLE substance, especially seeing as no other Albert Odyssey ever made it across the seas.
I played this merely because it was a WorkingDesigns translation... and well I love WD. They are a love em' or hate em' company. And I just LOVED the translation jobs they did. They added some much needed humor in some games. To bad they went out of business...
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If your a JRPG fan though. DragonForce, Saga and ShiningForce might not fit you. These are not standard JRPGs.
Shining Force 3 is a checkerboard style strategy RPG (if you need more explanation, go play 1 and 2 on the genny... AMAZING!). But this isn't your turnbased DragonWarrior, Phantasy Star or Final Fantasy.
DragonForce is also a strategy RPG, but different from ShiningForce. This time you control a general and you move around a giant continent taking over castles and then fortifying those castles with more generals you enlist or building up its defenses. When you either attack a castle OR your castle gets attacked you go into a battle where you pit your party of generals against theirs. Roaming parties can have up to 5 generals and castles can hold much more (that and castles give you the upper hand defense wise... but just staying in your castle gets nothing done... you need to expand your country). Battle commences on a field on which you can have up to 100 soldiers on each team go against each other. You first decide your formation, then command your soldiers to attack/defend/and other things... it's kinda like a American Football game in RPG form. If the army gets wasted and neither general retreats or dies then the two generals duel it out hand to hand. There is also magic and other protect/attack things the general can perform while watching his army battle. REALLY FUN!
Saga is more traditional RPG with a REALLY awesome battle system where you fly your dragon and can circle the enemy on all sides. With some enemies a specific side has advantages or disadvantages (like a weak spot is accesible, a certain weapon of theirs can't reach you, and in some battles even more unique thins happens... like that battle with the HUMONGOUS battle ship that just dwarfs you and your dragon). The game is unique and amazing in a lot of ways, and the special language they made specificly for the game is very interesting. DOWNSIDE, the game suffers from a very short play time AND little leveling up (can be beaten in just a little more then 10 hours). But the game deserves every credit it gets, I haven't seen anything like it since!
But for traditional JRPG gamers Saga feels like it might be missing something. Low difficulty, and short playtime really will leave you wondering WHY the HELL they didn't make this game much bigger. Also there are very few NPC's to communicate with. There's really only 1 town you visit. There is also a small encampment and another city later in the game... both of which you spend little time in and is inhabited by only a couple if not only 1 person. But many (including me) will say that this adds to the deliberate attitude of the game. It gives you what you need, everybody you meet, every place you go all is VERY important and relevant to the story. And what a story it is. Story wise (and battle system wise) your thurst will be quenched. There are several VERY memorable scenes that just blew me away. Where I just sat back in awe in the beautiful world they created. Not very often do you see such a NON-cliche world filled with original art/creatures/ideas. This game is really a breathe of freshair from the trite contrived stereotypical RPG storyline that plagues EVERY RPG out there.
Especially seeing as I never even play my games anymore. My time is spent on different things now.
I still LOVE discussing classic games though. It's my favorite past time, especially because in my 15+ years of collecting I've never had any friends in town that enjoyed these games like I do. Everyone is that "buy it, trade it, sell off the old system to buy the new one". They just look at my 2000+ game collection and 16+ consoles and just say, "nerd, GOD you're a nerd!"
So I come here...
HA, that is why you all have to deal with me. neener neener neener.
old ass pic of my collection (about 4 or 5 years ago)... click it
Anyways... if you want to try Grandia1, you may want to play it on the PS1. It is translated to english (sorry, but I can't stand holding a script in hand... especially in this game. There is a LOT of text, especially when you camp each night). The game looks like it's being played on a Saturn the entire time. It's kinda weird seeing the big font styles of the Saturn displayed on my PSX...
Grandia though is pretty freakin' long, and at parts just starts to drag a bit. The loading times were very annoying in my opinion (keep in mind, I'm a guy who spent HOURS level grinding in VAY on the SegaCD... loading times should not be annoying me). The battle system is amazing though, and I really liked the training you can do with specific weapons. It was very nice in my opinion. Grandia2 though really did a MUCH better job, and lost some of the really annoying cutesy gayness that is inherent in Grandia1 (keep in mind, I LOVE GameArts and even CARED about the characters in the Lunar series).
Play Grandia1 if A)you love a game for it's battle system and B) actually enjoy the story lines GameArts make. They are gay, corny, loveydovey and just soooooo adoreable... I eat em' up like tapioca pudding.
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As for Albert Odyssey. Meh, really, seriousily, meh. The soundtrack gets very repetetive and annoying. The load times are miserable, and I mean MISERABLE. Especially seeing how you get into a battle every 1.5 seconds. That damn vampire castle level was a bastard. And over all the game just really feels empty. I mean, yeah, it's just a Gaiden... but still, give me a LITTLE substance, especially seeing as no other Albert Odyssey ever made it across the seas.
I played this merely because it was a WorkingDesigns translation... and well I love WD. They are a love em' or hate em' company. And I just LOVED the translation jobs they did. They added some much needed humor in some games. To bad they went out of business...
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If your a JRPG fan though. DragonForce, Saga and ShiningForce might not fit you. These are not standard JRPGs.
Shining Force 3 is a checkerboard style strategy RPG (if you need more explanation, go play 1 and 2 on the genny... AMAZING!). But this isn't your turnbased DragonWarrior, Phantasy Star or Final Fantasy.
DragonForce is also a strategy RPG, but different from ShiningForce. This time you control a general and you move around a giant continent taking over castles and then fortifying those castles with more generals you enlist or building up its defenses. When you either attack a castle OR your castle gets attacked you go into a battle where you pit your party of generals against theirs. Roaming parties can have up to 5 generals and castles can hold much more (that and castles give you the upper hand defense wise... but just staying in your castle gets nothing done... you need to expand your country). Battle commences on a field on which you can have up to 100 soldiers on each team go against each other. You first decide your formation, then command your soldiers to attack/defend/and other things... it's kinda like a American Football game in RPG form. If the army gets wasted and neither general retreats or dies then the two generals duel it out hand to hand. There is also magic and other protect/attack things the general can perform while watching his army battle. REALLY FUN!
Saga is more traditional RPG with a REALLY awesome battle system where you fly your dragon and can circle the enemy on all sides. With some enemies a specific side has advantages or disadvantages (like a weak spot is accesible, a certain weapon of theirs can't reach you, and in some battles even more unique thins happens... like that battle with the HUMONGOUS battle ship that just dwarfs you and your dragon). The game is unique and amazing in a lot of ways, and the special language they made specificly for the game is very interesting. DOWNSIDE, the game suffers from a very short play time AND little leveling up (can be beaten in just a little more then 10 hours). But the game deserves every credit it gets, I haven't seen anything like it since!
But for traditional JRPG gamers Saga feels like it might be missing something. Low difficulty, and short playtime really will leave you wondering WHY the HELL they didn't make this game much bigger. Also there are very few NPC's to communicate with. There's really only 1 town you visit. There is also a small encampment and another city later in the game... both of which you spend little time in and is inhabited by only a couple if not only 1 person. But many (including me) will say that this adds to the deliberate attitude of the game. It gives you what you need, everybody you meet, every place you go all is VERY important and relevant to the story. And what a story it is. Story wise (and battle system wise) your thurst will be quenched. There are several VERY memorable scenes that just blew me away. Where I just sat back in awe in the beautiful world they created. Not very often do you see such a NON-cliche world filled with original art/creatures/ideas. This game is really a breathe of freshair from the trite contrived stereotypical RPG storyline that plagues EVERY RPG out there.
I own PDS, both PAL and US. Had more copies but sold them off. As for DF, I'm down to 2 copies now (sold one of those 3 already, and I had 2 other copies that I picked up seperately at flea markets). I really don't trade or buy video games much anymore. Don't really have the time or care in the world for the whole hastle of it all.Espio 1919 wrote:Um...ditto with Racketboy. So lord, if you have three copies that cost you $10 then you could keep one for yourself and then sell the other two and probably make $200 easy, just enough for a copy of PDS (if you don't have one already).
Especially seeing as I never even play my games anymore. My time is spent on different things now.
I still LOVE discussing classic games though. It's my favorite past time, especially because in my 15+ years of collecting I've never had any friends in town that enjoyed these games like I do. Everyone is that "buy it, trade it, sell off the old system to buy the new one". They just look at my 2000+ game collection and 16+ consoles and just say, "nerd, GOD you're a nerd!"
So I come here...
HA, that is why you all have to deal with me. neener neener neener.
old ass pic of my collection (about 4 or 5 years ago)... click it
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Mr. Stripe
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It might sound silly but one of the biggest regrets of my life is selling off old games and systems for the new ones. I had such a good collection, but they are all gone now and I am working my way back up.lordofduct wrote: I still LOVE discussing classic games though. It's my favorite past time, especially because in my 15+ years of collecting I've never had any friends in town that enjoyed these games like I do. Everyone is that "buy it, trade it, sell off the old system to buy the new one". They just look at my 2000+ game collection and 16+ consoles and just say, "nerd, GOD you're a nerd!"
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lordofduct
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