You damn kids, Listen to your superiors!

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dlmvii wrote:
Inazuma wrote:I didn't notice this thread until now and I'd love to write a big reply explaining my thoughts but Ziggy has already done that for me. It's not about rules or rank, it's about doing what's right. Doing the right thing may take more time or effort than simply giving up but it's important to stand up for what you know is right.
Does a school aged kid always know what's really "right"? I know I thought I did, but if I met myself when I was 16 I would probably hate me.
Take your current age. Now subtract 10 years. Were you smart back then? Of course not, you were a fucking idiot! The truth of the matter is that you're just as much of an idiot now, it's just going to take you another 10 years to realize it.

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MrPopo wrote:
dlmvii wrote:
Inazuma wrote:I didn't notice this thread until now and I'd love to write a big reply explaining my thoughts but Ziggy has already done that for me. It's not about rules or rank, it's about doing what's right. Doing the right thing may take more time or effort than simply giving up but it's important to stand up for what you know is right.
Does a school aged kid always know what's really "right"? I know I thought I did, but if I met myself when I was 16 I would probably hate me.
Take your current age. Now subtract 10 years. Were you smart back then? Of course not, you were a fucking idiot! The truth of the matter is that you're just as much of an idiot now, it's just going to take you another 10 years to realize it.

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Inazuma wrote:I didn't notice this thread until now and I'd love to write a big reply explaining my thoughts but Ziggy has already done that for me. It's not about rules or rank, it's about doing what's right. Doing the right thing may take more time or effort than simply giving up but it's important to stand up for what you know is right.
Exactly.
dlmvii wrote:Does a school aged kid always know what's really "right"? I know I thought I did, but if I met myself when I was 16 I would probably hate me.
Always? No. And good point. But while I might not always know what's "right" (either back then OR present day) I know enough to know [the stories in this thread] are not.
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Ziggy587 wrote: And really, I'm not talking about the teachers (though there are a few). I've actually had a great report with 99% of my teachers. There were a few that I've become very friendly with. But pretty much every (and I'm not generalizing, this is my own experience) aid / hall moniter / whatever you call them in my high school were completely on a power trip.
Exactly it seems a lot of people are failing to clarify in this thread, are we all talking about actual educators or these lackey rent a cop types?
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Thing is, your environment plays a lot in your development as a person, not just parents but your peers, so when you are a kid you think the sun shines out of your arse and everyone in authority are a bunch of tossers, and you're "cool". Then when you get into your twenties you realise, when you are getting life experience, that you were the tosser and look at teenagers like they are idiots. When you get older you realise there are various stages of life; pre-teen = trying to be an individual but heavily mimicking those around you, teens = trying to put that behind you but failing and trying to be an adult and "have respect" even though you have no life experience and don't deserve respect as you are a tosser, "the world revolves around you" and trying to fit in and put others down to elevate your low status (eg if you are bullied you tend to have a different outlook than if you are the bully); twenties = you realise the idiot you were in your teens, and making your own mark on the world; older = you don't care anymore because you have life experience and have made your mark on the world for good or bad, responsible for your own actions - and teenagers see you as the "authority" and "what do you know, you're past it" lol. The cycle!

I agree that it is important to stand for what you believe in and not take shit from anyone; however either you have to choose your fights and when they happen to give you the best chance to win; or you don't give a fuck and fight it no matter if you win or lose, as the "issue" is a matter of pride or principle as you know you are right and important to you. Normally you look at disputes as a larger picture on what you would gain or lose and make a balanced judgement as to how you want to deal with it for the best outcome (not easy to do when you are young); however sometimes, it's guns blazing as the only option - you have to live with yourself after all and sometimes the fluffy approach isn't appropriate or unlikely to get the result. Life experience is very important, and you get that through life and age; that's why in some cultures they "respect their elders".
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