You damn kids, Listen to your superiors!

[DNT 2.5]

Why do you think you deserve respect before giving it?

What have you done to earn respect? (see above why teachers deserve respect)

I never meant to come off as I deserve respect first, Respect is mutual not one sided.

[Luke]

Pull your head out of your ass and do what your told.

Not exactly eloquently put, but yes:

Realize the fact that right now, your teachers control your future.

I never meant to come off as I deserve respect first, Respect is mutual not one sided.

I know.
But you should already respect your teachers from the start. These guys and gals give up tons of money, just because they want to teach. They want to help. That's why they're teaching. Cut your teachers some slack, I bet they'll return the favor.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: "Half of Learning is Learning How To Deal With an Asshole"-Luke


I'm not trying to be an ass, just trying to get you to see your teacher's point of view, which is probably the more correct point of view.

[DNT 2.5]

Pull your head out of your ass and do what your told.

Not exactly eloquently put, but yes:

Realize the fact that right now, your teachers control your future.

I never meant to come off as I deserve respect first, Respect is mutual not one sided.

I know.
But you should already respect your teachers from the start. These guys and gals give up tons of money, just because they want to teach. They want to help. That's why they're teaching. Cut your teachers some slack, I bet they'll return the favor.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: "Half of Learning is Learning How To Deal With an Asshole"-Luke


I'm not trying to be an ass, just trying to get you to see your teacher's point of view, which is probably the more correct point of view.

I agree, there are great teachers That I have this year, you can tell they love teaching. My social teacher is a great example. These two teachers however are the type that, ARE in fact on a power trip, I have in the years before been in both of their respective classes, they are, lets put it this way, Not meant to teach.
There are people that are great at every profession, then there are just people that are there because they didn't have another option, or they decided they didn't want to past the point of no return.

[ryanofcali]

were these people actually teachers or some yard duty/rent a cop security types that some people call "teachers" ?

[dedalusdedalus]

I agree, there are great teachers That I have this year, you can tell they love teaching. My social teacher is a great example. These two teachers however are the type that, ARE in fact on a power trip, I have in the years before been in both of their respective classes, they are, lets put it this way, Not meant to teach.
There are people that are great at every profession, then there are just people that are there because they didn't have another option, or they decided they didn't want to past the point of no return.

This was how I experienced my high school teachers. I respected the passionate, intelligent teachers because they deserved it. The ones who weren't as good at their jobs or didn't seem even-handed got a lot less respect from me as well as the other students.

All in all though, I'm a bit disillusioned with teaching as a profession. There are, no doubt, some people who truly forego better career opportunities and go into teaching because it's their passion, and they excel at what they do. The reality, however, is that teachers' unions are powerful and do excellent work in protecting the jobs of people who were never meant to teach, and so the ratio of excellent teachers to underwhelming teachers is lower than it should be.

For example, in my city, it's extremely difficult for a teacher to get fired for incompetence. Even if a teacher commits "professional misconduct" like fondling a student or showing up to work piss-drunk, they get put into the "rubber room" which means that they stop teaching and get paid at full salary while the case gets investigated and/or litigated. This is all thanks to the union protecting its constituents.

TL;DR.

What I'm trying to convey is that blind, unquestioning respect is a dangerous thing. Do all teachers deserve respect, just because they're teachers? Probably not; there's unquestionably going to be some teachers out there who were never meant to teach, either due to limitations of intellect or low emotional quotient.

As with all things in life, you have to decide who deserves your respect and who doesn't.

And if you decide someone doesn't deserve your respect, you have to carefully toe the line and decide what you can get away with. Even if you don't respect a particular teacher, that teacher holds the power to discipline, and that's a battle you can't win.

[ieatramen]

Are you too cool to pick up a piece of trash? I don't get what the big deal is.

[DNT 2.5]

Are you too cool to pick up a piece of trash? I don't get what the big deal is.

What I Forgot to add the the original post is that this happens every day, I explain to them that I don't bring lunches, it's not my shit, Today would have been the same, but the teacher needed to flex her peen.

[pepharytheworm]

Luke, you dropped some trash in this thread. You better pick it up! thats my mean authority face.

By the way watch Mr. Woodcock, believe it or not there are a lot of teachers like that. Just because you're doing something for the right reasons doesn't mean your doing it right, or at least what most consider right.

I am sure we have all heard "The path to Hell is paved with good intentions"

To be honest sometimes when young its just best to do what you are told. Next time in that situation tell the teacher "I didn't place it there, but I would gladly throw it away, as we should all do our part to keep the school clean". Say it as respectful as you can. If anything you do it that way and they will be shocked and might try approaching such matters different in the future

A lot of time I wish adults could remember how they were when they were kids and how they thought. Most adults seem to forget. I am trying really hard to remember and treat children with the same amount of respect as adults. If people would listen to youth more instead of blame, accuse, and assume, more would be accomplished. I garuantee you try that method and they will mature much faster.

By the way I had a similiar story, I fought it, refused to sign the right up, and was eventually expelled. I took my story to the superintendent and was able to graduate. Needless to say a lot of faculty members got in trouble including the principal. All that was needed was for people to listen instead of assume/accuse and the whole situation could have been avoided.

[jfe2]

I actually had the same exact thing happen to me back in high school.

I had a teacher try to make me pick up a nasty, food covered tray that wasn't mine. I guess she just felt extra important that day or something, because she usually was a nice lady. I respectfully declined, and she tried to punish me by making me push a garbage can around the lunch room to collect trash from my peers. I immediately walked to the assistant principal's office and told him what had happened, and why I wasn't going to clean up the garbage. He actually sided with me since I was never sarcastic or disrespectful to him, and I never had to serve my punishment.

As long as you aren't being a sarcastic jerk to your teachers then I think its fine that you didn't want to pick up trash that wasn't yours.

*Edit - I also had to serve detention for saying "g-string" in 7th grade.

[dlmvii]

In 6th grade a teacher made me serve lunch detention for chewing gum in her class. I wasn't blowing bubbles, I wasn't popping it. Just chewing.

Bitch.