The Activision issue

[RCBH928]

thanx a lot
that sums it nicely

MW2 is fairly a new game, they shouldn't release another at least for 2 years
in the mean time, they can release updates and maps, maybe an extension

[ZeroAX]

thanx a lot
that sums it nicely

MW2 is fairly a new game, they shouldn't release another at least for 2 years
in the mean time, they can release updates and maps, maybe an extension

on the pc they actually released a downgrade. MW2 gave a boost to sales of MW1 (on the pc of course).

[DerekG52]

It seems lately that EA is no longer the most evil company, that void has been filled in by Activision nicely. Also, Ubisoft seems to be wanting to be in contention as well.

[emwearz]

People need to start self publishing imo.

Took your advice

Heres a little article I wrote on the matter.
http://theoldbits.blogspot.com/2010/04/ ... ision.html

[Dakinggamer87]

Activision is the new EA.

[Hobie-wan]

Of course this is all amusing as CRT said, Activision was started by employees of Atari who were sick of not getting credit and proper pay for their work. EA was started as a company that also wanted to give proper credit to the creators of the games as well. Both turned into evil big corporations.

[Octopod]

Of course this is all amusing as CRT said, Activision was started by employees of Atari who were sick of not getting credit and proper pay for their work. EA was started as a company that also wanted to give proper credit to the creators of the games as well. Both turned into evil big corporations.

The best of intentions...

Is Activision still owned by those same people though? I was under the impression that it was Activision in name only. Didn't EA not go bad until after it went public and then Trip Hawkins left? Ofcourse 3DO started buying up companies too and making bad games if memory serves.

I liken it to music that is put out by super small labels and those labels care about music still. When companies get so big they become concerned with nothing but their bottom line and then integrity goes out the window along with anything else that gets in the way of maximum profits. I know there are some indie game developers but I wish there were more and that they were capable of...better(I guess that is the word)...games. I know indie developers make good games, I guess I mean bigger games...

I guess it is easier with something like music though.

[ZeroAX]

I believe EA has changed in the last years (new CEO and stuff). 2008 saw Mirror's Edge and Dead Space, they let their FIFA development team actually make a better game, they made Boom Box for the Wii, they've released tons of new stuff, some of them pretty innovative. Also Valve said that EA was the only company that ever payed them what they were promised (concerning the release of The Orange Box I guess).

Activision on the contrary has really turned evil. FFS assholes, those guys (infinity ward) made you billions. Don't you think they deserve to get payed the money you PROMISED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE? heck according to capitalism rules you should pay them even more than what you promised since the game outperformed itself.

[Limewater]

When companies get so big they become concerned with nothing but their bottom line and then integrity goes out the window along with anything else that gets in the way of maximum profits.

Not trying to pick at your argument, but it just occurred to me that, at least in the eyes of the Racketboy community, SEGA kind of did the opposite.

I'm not a huge SEGA guy, but most of the fans around here seem to think that SEGA continued to produce great games as they grew to be a huge success, and only started to suck after the failure of the Dreamcast.

Though I guess they tend to blame a lot of that on Sammy. I don't know enough about the situation to comment myself.

Also, perhaps I'm evil, but I own stock in EA. I hope that what's been said about them getting back to being a respected publisher again is true, but I also hope that it positively affects share prices.

[Octopod]

When companies get so big they become concerned with nothing but their bottom line and then integrity goes out the window along with anything else that gets in the way of maximum profits.

Not trying to pick at your argument, but it just occurred to me that, at least in the eyes of the Racketboy community, SEGA kind of did the opposite.

I'm not a huge SEGA guy, but most of the fans around here seem to think that SEGA continued to produce great games as they grew to be a huge success, and only started to suck after the failure of the Dreamcast.

Though I guess they tend to blame a lot of that on Sammy. I don't know enough about the situation to comment myself.

Also, perhaps I'm evil, but I own stock in EA. I hope that what's been said about them getting back to being a respected publisher again is true, but I also hope that it positively affects share prices.

I never said that they are evil and I certainly am not saying you are either. What I am saying is that it is not a good situation or environment to develop something of quality in. They have to worry about shareholders and profits rather than trying new things. That is why we get so many sequels and knock-offs.

I think that things have changed since the glory days of Sega. A lot more people buy games now. Companies cater to the status quo. Same reason Brittany Spears(or who ever, I do not know anything about pop music) sells millions of albums.

None of that has anything to do with ripping off developers though. Sega was a developer though and they were not going to rip themselves off as a publisher so that is a bit of a different situation.

Edit: Thinking about my statement I guess it really depends though on what you consider quality. I suppose a lot of people think that all the sequels and the like are quality. That is why they sell so much. Just the same as with music *shrug* Guess a lot of it is just a matter of opinion.