How do bad games make it to the market place?

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Luke wrote:I blame Grandparents.

Seems like every time I'm in a GameStop there's a Grandma or Grandpa walking around like they are in Mars. Copletely bewildered. They walk over to a clerk and ask, "My grandson has a nintendo. What's a good game?". As always, the clerk roll their eyes and asks, "You mean nintendo Wii? Here get him this Metroid collection, it's great".

Grandma thinks out loud, "Oh, I don't even know what a 'meteroid' is. That looks too violent. Ooooo! Party Games! That sounds like fun. I'll get him Party Games".

I love Grandparents, but they do buy a lot of shitty games for gifts.
This is why when I was a kid I always prepared a list for my grandparents complete with several alternate choices. I was never disappointed.
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Reprise wrote:Agreed with anyone who says the answer is money. That's all there is to it really.
yup. Trust me, no company would continue to produce "bad games" if they weren't turning a profit.
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MrPopo wrote: This is why when I was a kid I always prepared a list for my grandparents complete with several alternate choices. I was never disappointed.
I did the same, but I always ended up getting games like Anticipation and Wall Street Kid. Not bad games, but definitely not what I asked for.
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corn619 wrote:Its funny how the masses are satisfied with just the mediocre.
Rating inflation certainly doesn't help. Most games are mediocre but in most rating systems mediocre ends up being 4/5 or 75%. If games were rated properly by people and sites that assign values, we'd have a lot more 3s and 50% ratings. There's a reason for bell curves and things being 'average'. Though tastes are subjective and numbers are hard to quantify. I like the way Mark at Classic Game Room and Kotaku do a Liked/Hated sort of thing.
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Hobie-wan wrote:
corn619 wrote:Its funny how the masses are satisfied with just the mediocre.
Rating inflation certainly doesn't help. Most games are mediocre but in most rating systems mediocre ends up being 4/5 or 75%. If games were rated properly by people and sites that assign values, we'd have a lot more 3s and 50% ratings. There's a reason for bell curves and things being 'average'. Though tastes are subjective and numbers are hard to quantify. I like the way Mark at Classic Game Room and Kotaku do a Liked/Hated sort of thing.
Remember back in the day when something could get a 1/5 from GamePro?
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MrPopo wrote:
Hobie-wan wrote:
corn619 wrote:Its funny how the masses are satisfied with just the mediocre.
Rating inflation certainly doesn't help. Most games are mediocre but in most rating systems mediocre ends up being 4/5 or 75%. If games were rated properly by people and sites that assign values, we'd have a lot more 3s and 50% ratings. There's a reason for bell curves and things being 'average'. Though tastes are subjective and numbers are hard to quantify. I like the way Mark at Classic Game Room and Kotaku do a Liked/Hated sort of thing.
Remember back in the day when something could get a 1/5 from GamePro?
the problem is that the publishers of those games are paying for the advertising that are keeping those magazines alive, so there's a bit of a conflict of interest going on there.
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It really pisses me off the amount of crap-ware that is out on the Nintendo Wii!!!! I feel bad for the poor kids who see a game that is marketed as fun and exciting.... they save their allowance, get it as a gift, etc.... and then they are disappointed with what a piece of junk it is and its worth like $3 at gamestop! What the hell happened to Nintendo's "seal of approval" from the NES days? Why doesn't Nintendo give a damn about quality control anymore?! I dont see this flood of trash on any other console. And yes I know these companies do it for the money.... but where is the heart and soul in the industry to make a quality product?

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8bit wrote:It really pisses me off the amount of crap-ware that is out on the Nintendo Wii!!!! I feel bad for the poor kids who see a game that is marketed as fun and exciting.... they save their allowance, get it as a gift, etc.... and then they are disappointed with what a piece of junk it is and its worth like $3 at gamestop! What the hell happened to Nintendo's "seal of approval" from the NES days? Why doesn't Nintendo give a damn about quality control anymore?! I dont see this flood of trash on any other console. And yes I know these companies do it for the money.... but where is the heart and soul in the industry to make a quality product?

I miss the good ole days!
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8bit wrote:It really pisses me off the amount of crap-ware that is out on the Nintendo Wii!!!! I feel bad for the poor kids who see a game that is marketed as fun and exciting.... they save their allowance, get it as a gift, etc.... and then they are disappointed with what a piece of junk it is and its worth like $3 at gamestop! What the hell happened to Nintendo's "seal of approval" from the NES days? Why doesn't Nintendo give a damn about quality control anymore?! I dont see this flood of trash on any other console. And yes I know these companies do it for the money.... but where is the heart and soul in the industry to make a quality product?

I miss the good ole days!
Fully agree with BoringSupreez. I never really saw a time where Nintendo's Seal Of Quality meant anything. The amount of shovelware on the NES and SNES and N64 that had the 'Seal Of Quality' would have made you really sick.
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noiseredux wrote:
Reprise wrote:Agreed with anyone who says the answer is money. That's all there is to it really.
yup. Trust me, no company would continue to produce "bad games" if they weren't turning a profit.
This is what disgusts me about the current generation of games. The big game companies seems to have forgot the reason people play games, for entertainment, thats it.
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