With gaming at the level it is now....what makes us go back=
With gaming at the level it is now....what makes us go back=
back to the old systems? The DC's. the 3do's, jaguars and so on. Is it just good old fasion nastalga? Whats your take?
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lordofduct
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There is game play on the old consoles they just don't make anymore.
Aside from the portable market... which personally, I don't like. I enjoy being in front of my large TV, with loud speakers and a controller in hand relaxing on my couch. Screw the crooked neck, glare, and rather uncomfortable controlls of handhelds.
There are also huge amounts of games (that are relatively affordable) that I have yet to beat or even play. Why pay 50 bones for gameplay I don't enjoy, when I can pick up a genny game for 2 bucks that does have gameplay I like and I've never seen to this date.
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one other thing. My appreciation for videogames is a little different then most peoples. I enjoy the underdog syndrome. Watching something tiny, underpowered, and over all no stronger then a modern graphing calculator (seriousily, check the specs on some of those things)... and watch it puke out wonderfully beautiful games that are addicting.
the idea that a motorolla 68000 clocked at 7.16 mhz with a meager 64 Kb of RAM put Sonic3 or Ecco the Dolphin Tides of time on screen. I mean come on, that is a masterful feat from the programmers. The speed, the beautiful sprites, the large levels...
an artist is tested to his limits when there are limitations testing him.
Aside from the portable market... which personally, I don't like. I enjoy being in front of my large TV, with loud speakers and a controller in hand relaxing on my couch. Screw the crooked neck, glare, and rather uncomfortable controlls of handhelds.
There are also huge amounts of games (that are relatively affordable) that I have yet to beat or even play. Why pay 50 bones for gameplay I don't enjoy, when I can pick up a genny game for 2 bucks that does have gameplay I like and I've never seen to this date.
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one other thing. My appreciation for videogames is a little different then most peoples. I enjoy the underdog syndrome. Watching something tiny, underpowered, and over all no stronger then a modern graphing calculator (seriousily, check the specs on some of those things)... and watch it puke out wonderfully beautiful games that are addicting.
the idea that a motorolla 68000 clocked at 7.16 mhz with a meager 64 Kb of RAM put Sonic3 or Ecco the Dolphin Tides of time on screen. I mean come on, that is a masterful feat from the programmers. The speed, the beautiful sprites, the large levels...
an artist is tested to his limits when there are limitations testing him.
I'm totally down with lordofducts frugality and appreciation of small systems doing big things.
But for me, I just tend to prefer the gameplay of DC era games, and those that came before it. I like a game which is challenging to master yet simple to play, without alot of fluff surrounding it. From my own perspective, I find games becoming less enjoyable -- I become alienated the more they try to become an interactive experience and less of a raw game. So, a game like Bioshock -- I truly love and appreciate the art and mood it attempts to create, but am otherwise nonplussed by the experience. When I play a game, I'm not trying to escape or become a character, to experience another reality -- I just want to have fun. And, with that in mind, it seems that systems after the DC have huge catalogs of titles which try to put the player inside a hollywood movie.
Another problem, is my attention span. I like game sessions to last around 15-30 minutes. Anything longer, I just tend to get bored.
But for me, I just tend to prefer the gameplay of DC era games, and those that came before it. I like a game which is challenging to master yet simple to play, without alot of fluff surrounding it. From my own perspective, I find games becoming less enjoyable -- I become alienated the more they try to become an interactive experience and less of a raw game. So, a game like Bioshock -- I truly love and appreciate the art and mood it attempts to create, but am otherwise nonplussed by the experience. When I play a game, I'm not trying to escape or become a character, to experience another reality -- I just want to have fun. And, with that in mind, it seems that systems after the DC have huge catalogs of titles which try to put the player inside a hollywood movie.
Another problem, is my attention span. I like game sessions to last around 15-30 minutes. Anything longer, I just tend to get bored.
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RadarScope1
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More and more I am this way, too. That's why I like Guitar Hero or Elite Beat Agents in current gen.durkada wrote:Another problem, is my attention span. I like game sessions to last around 15-30 minutes. Anything longer, I just tend to get bored.
Older stuff lets you go back to that pick up and play. Only thing modern games have going for them in this regard is that you can save your progress and advance 15-30 minutes at a time.
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Very well put.an artist is tested to his limits when there are limitations testing him.
JT wrote:Yeah, like vampire aliens invade and hit us all with a ray beam that paralyzes all of our arms. The only way to deactivate the ray beam and fight back the vampire alien threat is with a complicated series of foot patterns on the device's control board that looks remarkably like a DDR pad. We will all praise this man for saving our lives and buy him a mountain of stuffed animals.
Gameplay. Which is, strangely, why I don't really play the 3D games from the PSX/N64 era anymore. The gameplay didn't age well and they feel clunky a lot of the time. There is an odd and simple fact in saying that I can play a shoot-em-up for hours but can't play a triple A blockbuster like HL2 for more than 20 minutes. Retro games are just all about fun, there's no worry about graphics as they were so limited (though some sprites are still gorgeous), and the focus is in breaking the gameplay molds. I still own my SNES for a reason.
Ninja Gaiden Black, for me, was the most amazingly beautiful and well done mesh of old-school gameplay with the glorious complexity of modern gaming. It was beautiful, the AI was brilliant, the move list was huge, and every fight went a different way each time you did it. However, it still had that old-school "one more try" feel, and the big boss at the end of each stage, and most important of all: the true challenge that tested your reflexes, adaptability and abilities as a gamer. That's why it roped me so hard and was the first game I beat in over a year, and it's why I started a new game on Hard 5 minutes after beating it on normal.
Retro gaming kicks ass, and it doesn't have to be on old console to bring that feel.
Ninja Gaiden Black, for me, was the most amazingly beautiful and well done mesh of old-school gameplay with the glorious complexity of modern gaming. It was beautiful, the AI was brilliant, the move list was huge, and every fight went a different way each time you did it. However, it still had that old-school "one more try" feel, and the big boss at the end of each stage, and most important of all: the true challenge that tested your reflexes, adaptability and abilities as a gamer. That's why it roped me so hard and was the first game I beat in over a year, and it's why I started a new game on Hard 5 minutes after beating it on normal.
Retro gaming kicks ass, and it doesn't have to be on old console to bring that feel.
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Gamerforlife
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There's a lot of stuff I like about older games
Sometimes I just feel like there was more fun and creativity in the games of old. Games today take themselves too seriously. Every game goes for realism now instead of artistic flair, and most of the popular games are things that are truer to real life like racing games, sports games or war simulators(a.k.a first person shooters).
How often do you see a fun, cartoon based platform game these days? Or something as crazy, colorful, loud and over the top as old arcade games used to be? How often do you see something as surreal and trippy as Rez, or Earthworm Jim, or Psychonauts?
Games today are just boring.
I'm also a lover of great single player experiences. I'm sick and tired of how online obsessed gaming is today. With Halo 3 coming out, I keep seeing videos and screenshots of multi-player. Does anyone even care about what the campaign mode will be like?
This may sound silly, but I also love the durability of older cartridge games. I don't have to be careful and delicate with a Genesis game like I do with a DVD. I can just yank it out of the box, shove it into the system and get to playing.
Part of it too is just my love for gaming history. So many of the games that come out now, I think,"been there, done that". I still found a lot of surprises though when checking out retro games I haven't played. it's fun to see where many of today's ideas originally came from. I think the difference between a casual fan of anything and a hardcore one is the hardcore ones will learn their hobby's history. You don't see a casual movie fan digging up old black and white movies, but a real movie buff will
Anything I really love I like to learn more about it's history. If I find myself really liking a certain director for example, I'll start digging up his older work and watching it. I like to be somewhat knowledgeable about things I love
Sometimes I just feel like there was more fun and creativity in the games of old. Games today take themselves too seriously. Every game goes for realism now instead of artistic flair, and most of the popular games are things that are truer to real life like racing games, sports games or war simulators(a.k.a first person shooters).
How often do you see a fun, cartoon based platform game these days? Or something as crazy, colorful, loud and over the top as old arcade games used to be? How often do you see something as surreal and trippy as Rez, or Earthworm Jim, or Psychonauts?
Games today are just boring.
I'm also a lover of great single player experiences. I'm sick and tired of how online obsessed gaming is today. With Halo 3 coming out, I keep seeing videos and screenshots of multi-player. Does anyone even care about what the campaign mode will be like?
This may sound silly, but I also love the durability of older cartridge games. I don't have to be careful and delicate with a Genesis game like I do with a DVD. I can just yank it out of the box, shove it into the system and get to playing.
Part of it too is just my love for gaming history. So many of the games that come out now, I think,"been there, done that". I still found a lot of surprises though when checking out retro games I haven't played. it's fun to see where many of today's ideas originally came from. I think the difference between a casual fan of anything and a hardcore one is the hardcore ones will learn their hobby's history. You don't see a casual movie fan digging up old black and white movies, but a real movie buff will
Anything I really love I like to learn more about it's history. If I find myself really liking a certain director for example, I'll start digging up his older work and watching it. I like to be somewhat knowledgeable about things I love