PS3's "Move" revealed

[Jrecee]

How successful has the tiltable PS3 controller been? Does anyone care? Do games even take advantage of it anymore?

How successful is the PS3 eyetoy? It's a tacked on gimmick with limited support isn't it?

I'm pretty sure Sony is completely incapable of any sort of innovation with the playstation. Microsoft is at least trying to do something different with the motion controller concept. Sony on the other hand, has basically copied the 99% of the wiimote concept. I think it will show in sales. The motion controller gimmick has already started wearing off, wii sales are going down, and I'm pretty sure the only reason it has done so well for this long is the affordable price and kid-friendly nature. I don't think at $299 and with Sony's reputation, that this will even make a blip on anyone's radar.

Microsoft on the other hand, has been pushing the family friendly concept for the last couple years, and with the low point of entry for the 360, I think they'll have a lot more success with Natal. The no controller concept will get people to take notice, and the affordability might bring those people in.

Are any of the people who were lured in by the wii really going to understand the difference between the Playstation Move and the Wii Remote, when they look nearly the same? Natal is a difference that a clueless parent can see.

[Niode]

How successful has the tiltable PS3 controller been? Does anyone care? Do games even take advantage of it anymore?

How successful is the PS3 eyetoy? It's a tacked on gimmick with limited support isn't it?

I'm pretty sure Sony is completely incapable of any sort of innovation with the playstation. Microsoft is at least trying to do something different with the motion controller concept. Sony on the other hand, has basically copied the 99% of the wiimote concept. I think it will show in sales. The motion controller gimmick has already started wearing off, wii sales are going down, and I'm pretty sure the only reason it has done so well for this long is the affordable price and kid-friendly nature. I don't think at $299 and with Sony's reputation, that this will even make a blip on anyone's radar.

Microsoft on the other hand, has been pushing the family friendly concept for the last couple years, and with the low point of entry for the 360, I think they'll have a lot more success with Natal. The no controller concept will get people to take notice, and the affordability might bring those people in.

Are any of the people who were lured in by the wii really going to understand the difference between the Playstation Move and the Wii Remote, when they look nearly the same? Natal is a difference that a clueless parent can see.

You do realise this describes the behaviour Sony ever since they started making consoles?

Nintendo ships the N64 with an analogue stick (not an innovation or a unique thing for consoles by a long shot but it's the most popular) and Sony within months had the Playstation Analogue controller in market. OMGZ IT HAZ 2 STICKZ!! SO ITZ BETTAR!!

Nintendo launch Starfox 64 with the rumble pack. Sony release the Dual shock within a couple of months. OMGZ IT HAZ 2 RUMBLZ!! SO ITZ BETAR!

Sega announce the Dreamcast with the visual memory unit. Months later Sony announce the pocketstation, a memory card/portable unit in one. OMGZ IT DONT WORK WIT ANYFING! DIZ SUCKZ!!

Nintendo announce the Wii, with 'revolutionary' motion controls. Sony instantly do a me too with the Sixaxis, at the expense of rumble. OMGZ IT HAZ 2 GYROSCOPZ!! SO ITZ BETAR!!

Notice a pattern there at all?

[tahoe2]

This will be as gay as microsofts project natal motion sensor.

[nickfil]

This will be as gay as microsofts project natal motion sensor.

naw. 'move' will like way more deep dickings than 'natal'.

[RyaNtheSlayA]

Either way I gather motion controls will be pretty much exclusive to this generation of consoles. Too many gamers have shown their disdain for them, aside from the casual crowd, but I guarantee that the Wii still would have sold a shit load even without motion control simply because of how Nintendo has marketed the system.

Heavy Rain was luckily good enough on so many other fronts that I was able to excuse the Sixaxis implementation. Other games I am not as forgiving (Lair, although, with the update allowing me to use the thumb sticks, its probably not a bad game).

[the7k]

Man, everybody sure is ready to dismiss this deal.

Honestly, I couldn't give less of a crap as to how innovative it is - all I care about are the games. So far, we've seen Flower, LBP and RE5 will support it, while plenty of new games will also be made for it, including SOCOM 4, Echochrome 2 and Ape Escape. 22 games in all, although a good chunk of them are basically "Wii HD" titles. Considering companies like Q-Games, Q Entertainment, Marvelous, Atlus and From Software are getting in on it, I think it has potential.

Compare that to media darling Natal, which has only shown Ricochet, Paint Party, Milo and Kate, and Fable III. I'd say the Move isn't doing too bad, especially considering it didn't even have a name a week ago.

All I need to see is an RTS controlled by the Move, and I'll be sold. It pisses me off there still hasn't been an RTS for the Wii controlled the same way (unless I somehow missed it. The only one I remember coming close to the concept was side-scroller involving Vikings, Aztecs and Chinese. Can't remember the name.)

@Niode
I find it ironic that you accuse Sony of completely ripping everything they've ever come up with off in response to a complaint about the EyeToy.

[Ack]

@Niode
I find it ironic that you accuse Sony of completely ripping everything they've ever come up with off in response to a complaint about the EyeToy.

I also find it funny that most of it is from Sony ripping off Nintendo, while Sony likely never wouldn't have entered the game if Nintendo hadn't tried screwing them over in the first place on their little SNES CD-ROM.

All's fair in business and war.

[Jrecee]

You do realise this describes the behaviour Sony ever since they started making consoles?

Nintendo ships the N64 with an analogue stick (not an innovation or a unique thing for consoles by a long shot but it's the most popular) and Sony within months had the Playstation Analogue controller in market. OMGZ IT HAZ 2 STICKZ!! SO ITZ BETTAR!!

Nintendo launch Starfox 64 with the rumble pack. Sony release the Dual shock within a couple of months. OMGZ IT HAZ 2 RUMBLZ!! SO ITZ BETAR!

Sega announce the Dreamcast with the visual memory unit. Months later Sony announce the pocketstation, a memory card/portable unit in one. OMGZ IT DONT WORK WIT ANYFING! DIZ SUCKZ!!

Nintendo announce the Wii, with 'revolutionary' motion controls. Sony instantly do a me too with the Sixaxis, at the expense of rumble. OMGZ IT HAZ 2 GYROSCOPZ!! SO ITZ BETAR!!

Notice a pattern there at all?

Yeah I know sony has always done this type of thing. But I'm wondering if it will do any good in this situation. The rumble and dual analogue sticks obviously stuck around, but weren't really taken advantage of until the PS2. They were just tacked on things with limited support during the PS1 era. Great, dual analogue, so I can play. . . ape escape?

The sixaxis thing is a total gimmick. All it does is make controllers more expensive to produce. This cost probably just gets tossed onto the consumer though, but either way it's not good for Sony.

So the sixaxis has been a pointless waste, the pocketstation was a pointless waste. Now here we have another add-on late in the game. How many games will take advantage of this? How many people will care? We're talking about a $100 expense tacked onto a $300 system, whose main market is people who bought a PS3 because they don't want a wii!

[DNT 2.5]

I was actually thinking this over last night,
with the PS3 being as powerful as it is, I could actually see the Move turning into a good thing, that is, if games are developed for it.
Right now this could go two ways
Road one-
Becomes a WII clone, basically minigames to please the casuals and kiddies.
Road two-
Everything that the Wii hasn't done, plus more.

I am leaning towards road one.

[the7k]

A friend of mine pointed me to this - a tech demo for the EyeToy that was on the demo disc of the May 01, 2004 issue of Offiical PlayStation Magazine.


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