Thanx for all of your input
I will read the article
can someone explain to me , does my ISP HAS to have usenet server so I can use it when registering with usenet servers out there. Or I can register with a usenet server and as long as I have internet I can log on there
What is Usenet?
Re: What is Usenet?
I'd find out if your ISP already has usenet access. Just phone them up and ask them what your newsgroup settings are. If they don't have usenet access then you can just set up a usenet account with a usenet service provider. Just like if you set up an email account with google or yahoo.
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I got the urge to get a usenet account, but its paid for.
I re-read this whole topic again, but it would be nice if some one that is currently using it would give me tips on the thing if it is worth it or not, and what can I do using it
I re-read this whole topic again, but it would be nice if some one that is currently using it would give me tips on the thing if it is worth it or not, and what can I do using it
Re: What is Usenet?
Usenet is SUPER CEREAL!
I never paid for it, and don't think I ever would, but the files that were available on it before my ISP dropped all but a skeleton set of groups were often times rare (not easily available off any websites) or 0-day (fresh off the release group servers). There was a lot of interesting conversations going on as well on all kinds of topics. I'd recommend looking up a free server and give it a try to see if it's worth it to you, or scanning through Google Groups (google filters out any binary data so you just get conversations and massive amounts of spam off of it). There's a group for pretty much any niche interest you might have.
I used to use the program Newsbin as it allows a lot of filtering options - especially if you're looking for files. Before that I used Forte Agent. Files on usenet are usually split into several pieces to make transferring them easier and more compatible with usenet servers (most of which only allow messages of a certain size). To make up for the fact that some of the pieces would get lost someone invented the PAR format that split the files into pieces with a checksum file and also create backup files that could recreate a missing piece or 2 using data from the others. I used the program SmartPAR to reform the files after downloading them.
There's websites that regularly check all the free servers available and let you know how many groups are available on them, what their speed is, how long they keep messages, etc.
If you get Newsbin, you can have it poll a large number of free servers to get some semblance of an actually good complete server, tho getting everything running smoothly using that method can take a lot of work and tweaking. Maintaining the free server list to keep everything going is a chore.
I never paid for it, and don't think I ever would, but the files that were available on it before my ISP dropped all but a skeleton set of groups were often times rare (not easily available off any websites) or 0-day (fresh off the release group servers). There was a lot of interesting conversations going on as well on all kinds of topics. I'd recommend looking up a free server and give it a try to see if it's worth it to you, or scanning through Google Groups (google filters out any binary data so you just get conversations and massive amounts of spam off of it). There's a group for pretty much any niche interest you might have.
I used to use the program Newsbin as it allows a lot of filtering options - especially if you're looking for files. Before that I used Forte Agent. Files on usenet are usually split into several pieces to make transferring them easier and more compatible with usenet servers (most of which only allow messages of a certain size). To make up for the fact that some of the pieces would get lost someone invented the PAR format that split the files into pieces with a checksum file and also create backup files that could recreate a missing piece or 2 using data from the others. I used the program SmartPAR to reform the files after downloading them.
There's websites that regularly check all the free servers available and let you know how many groups are available on them, what their speed is, how long they keep messages, etc.
If you get Newsbin, you can have it poll a large number of free servers to get some semblance of an actually good complete server, tho getting everything running smoothly using that method can take a lot of work and tweaking. Maintaining the free server list to keep everything going is a chore.
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You want to look under alt.binaries if you want to download anything (instead of just using it as a forum, which was it's original intent). So if, for instance, you wanted Xbox games, get the full list of groups from your server first. Then filter (search) for xbox and binaries. You'll get a few groups back, get all the headers from each of them. Usually one is full of goodies, the others will be dead (except for spam). You can't really tell before you fetch the header which one people actually use.
Forte Agent was really good when I used it back in the 90s. But it's a commercial program. There's a free newsreader Pan, that is styled after Agent and has a ton of features.
Once you find a group with stuff you want in it, you'll find that the files are broken up into parts. I sort the messages by title, so that all the messages in a series are next to each other. Then I select the whole thing, right click on it and save the attached files. Pan will take care of decoding and assembling everything. You should just get a .rar or .zip or whatever in your News directory.
There are binary newsreaders that are designed for downloading lots of files, but this is a good way to get started.
Forte Agent was really good when I used it back in the 90s. But it's a commercial program. There's a free newsreader Pan, that is styled after Agent and has a ton of features.
Once you find a group with stuff you want in it, you'll find that the files are broken up into parts. I sort the messages by title, so that all the messages in a series are next to each other. Then I select the whole thing, right click on it and save the attached files. Pan will take care of decoding and assembling everything. You should just get a .rar or .zip or whatever in your News directory.
There are binary newsreaders that are designed for downloading lots of files, but this is a good way to get started.
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I am very very interested in checking it out...
Can any one explain why do they say usenet has a fast download? Does that mean it downloads faster than my internet connection?
Why would I want to search something off usenet instead of torrent for example?
Can any one explain why do they say usenet has a fast download? Does that mean it downloads faster than my internet connection?
Why would I want to search something off usenet instead of torrent for example?
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As stated before, a lot of warez groups release their binaries to usenet and in some cases irc.efnet first before they get leeched onto torrent sites.
It won't download faster than your internet connection, however you will download at the full capacity of the usenet server, usually maxing out your connection. Torrent relies on the bandwidth of others at all times, so if there's lots of people leeching and only a few seeders then your download rate will be very low. Usenet does not suffer from this problem.
It won't download faster than your internet connection, however you will download at the full capacity of the usenet server, usually maxing out your connection. Torrent relies on the bandwidth of others at all times, so if there's lots of people leeching and only a few seeders then your download rate will be very low. Usenet does not suffer from this problem.
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Plus, USENET is pure download. You're not sharing your bandwidth as in bittorrent. For those in countries where distribution is illegal, that can be a concern.
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so you think I should do it?
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Re: What is Usenet?
usenet is the best place to get all your divx xvid dvd rips along with all your wii, xbox, ps2, and software isos without any worries. You can pay a subscriber such as usenetserver.com or maximumusenet.com to get unlimited bandwdth and downloads a month. I pay around 18.00 a month for unlimited everything and download at about 1.5 megs all day.
