Best Next-Gen System

[shwisha]

I'd laugh if Sega ever came back to knock Sony off their perch the same way Sony did to the Dreamcast. CORPORATE REVENGE

you know i personally see sega making a come back. they are really starting to pull there shit back together. besides sonic team (and i have no idea if sonic 4 will be their saving grace, or just one of those sonic games) sega has been doing a great job in there other games. It might take a long time, but im getting hopeful that one of these days we will see sega hardware besides games.

I just signed up for PlaySega (mainly to get the free controller) so far I like it. It's an interesting idea and with more TV Boxes having internet capabilities who knows playsega could have an app for TVs and bring back SegaTV style gaming

[CRTGAMER]

While PS3 lives on for its 10+ year lifespan (Sony always keeps systems for 10 years unless they change their policy) with free online play, you'll still be bleeding money with your XBOX 360.

10 years? You mean my console can actully live for 10 years! Oh the irony, YLOD and RROD.

Sorry had to say that.

[Erik_Twice]

The advantage of the console over a PC is that a console will run any game made for that console. PCs, on the other hand... you'll be lucky if 1% of the PCs out there will run a game that was made for consoles - and even then, it'll probably have problems running it.

Of course you can't run any games made for a console! It's a computer!

Now, if you talk about ports your post makes little sense. Any decent computer can run any Xbox port out there including GTA IV and Street Fighter IV. And you could say the same thing about PC ports on consoles.

[fastbilly1]

So Ill admit I committed a faux pas and didnt read all of the posts (most but not all). But the main reason I have not bought a PS3 yet is because they took out the PS2 emulation. If they ever released that fabled PS2 emulator on the PS3 slim, I would buy one as soon as I could. I mean I do want some PS3 games , but I would pay the premium to have built in wireless controllers, memory cards, and multitap for the PS2.

I agree that Sony's biggest mistake was marketing. You can sell anything if you can convince enough people they want or need it - I cite the book 88 Reasons Christ is Coming in 88 and its follow up 89 Reasons Christ is Coming in 89 as reference. I mean the PS3 commercials at launch didnt make much sense. They have gotten their game together since then, but too much dead time in the market.

[the7k]

Honestly, I probably would have gotten a PS3 with PS2 BC if it the PS1/PS2 BC was region free.

I know that doesn't mean much to everyone else, but it means a lot to me. Because of that, it wasn't worth spending the extra $100 on the version that had PS2 BC because I was gonna have to have my PS2 hooked up anyway.

The fact that PS3's with PS2 BC have the highest chance of YLOD'ing didn't make me want it either. I always consider reliability when I buy such expensive electronics.

[Limewater]

yeah, but you can use USB controllers and PS2 controllers (which many already have), so depending on what you're playing, the pack in controller is enough. At least you have the option of using cheaper 3rd party controllers on the PS3 also, on 360 it's only what Microsoft blesses, which isn't much.

And Sony did a crappy job of advertising this fact. But besides, people want a shiny, new toy to play with a shiny new controller, not a shiny new toy to plug in with their crusty, greasy old controller.

That $50 live subscription adds up. While PS3 lives on for its 10+ year lifespan (Sony always keeps systems for 10 years unless they change their policy) with free online play, you'll still be bleeding money with your XBOX 360.

Most new console buyers don't think that far ahead and don't expect to still be playing the same console in ten years.

Original PS3s also had backwards compatibility, which you can subtract $100 for the cost of a separate PS2 slim (actually $130 was the price at the time if memory serves).

That's pretty ridiculous. If you already have a PS2 then forcing you to pay an extra $100 to buy another one that happens to be in the same case as the PS3 is not particularly attractive.

Oh, and Blu Ray? yeah, Blu Ray. Everyone with an HDTV has pretty much universally declared Blu Ray beats the pants off of DVD.

BluRay just hasn't taken off. People don't think they need it, and they don't appreciate the higher quality, so it shouldn't be surprising that they don't want to pay extra for it.

[GSZX1337]

Honestly, I probably would have gotten a PS3 with PS2 BC if it the PS1/PS2 BC was region free.

I know that doesn't mean much to everyone else, but it means a lot to me.

Shit, you know what I'd give to be able to play Thunder Force VI on my PS3?!

[Dylan]

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I think that another important concept is that features do not necessarily equate to entertainment. Looking at the PS3s starting lineup, most people thought "Well, why would I pay $600 just so that I can play Far Cry?". The starting lineup on the PS3 was pretty weak, and again Sony didn't start busting out larger numbers of quality titles until about a year ago.

[emwearz]

I think most points I would have liked to have made have been made. But in short.

. High starting price
. Removing BC
. Blu-Ray not taking a strong a hold in the market as DVD did

But the big one for me is;
. Sony losing 80% of there exclusives, No GTA, No Final Fantasy, the list goes on and on.

[Niode]

The only people who can't see that Sony made mistakes with the PS3 are deluded fanboys. At least in this country almost every gamer has a 360. Out of say 10 of my friends who are real gamers 9 of them own a 360, 2 of them own a 360 AND a PS3, only 1 owns a PS3 and nothing else. Of course it's not a fair sample, but you see it all the time, the pre-owned section in game stores is jam-packed full of 360 games, and it's slim-pickings for the PS3 section. That goes some way of showing the amount of PS3 owners out there.

A lot of my students own a 360, the ones that don't, don't own any console apart from a DS. I asked a few of them about the wireless and it's just not an issue. They either have it near a router, they don't go online (it's not a requirement to go online with this system, a lot of you seem to forget that) or they have it hooked up to their laptop with ICS. I don't think I have a single student that doesn't have at least a netbook these days so it's trivial to get a wireless connection cheaply on the 360.