I should have registered to vote.

[gtmtnbiker]

IF YOU DON'T LOVE IT LEAVE IT! WHOOOO! USA #1!!!!!!!1111

Exactly. How about you move to North Korea?

I like to see a man proud of the place in which he lives. I like to see a man live so that his place will be proud of him. ~Abraham Lincoln

[gtmtnbiker]

They both come off as big tools to me. And I guess he is not a Republican, he is an Independent, but really he is a Republican.

So what exactly are your issues with the two candidates?

[gtmtnbiker]

I don't. I'm pretty iffy on this whole democracy thing anyway. I don't want other people voting for stuff that affects me. With internet voting, it will be even more people voting for stuff that affects me. Where is that a good thing?

I don't see how this will really change from what's done today except to save you 15-20 minutes at the polls.

You're voting for various people to represent your interests, the interests of the local area, your state/province, and your country. You're not voting directly on some policy/law.

[Limewater]

Edit: I don't know what you meant by where we all live Limewater but I live in Western CT, if that is an issue somehow

By "we" I meant Luke and myself. Without the electoral college, the entire country would pretty much exist solely for the service of California and the northeast.

[Octopod]

IF YOU DON'T LOVE IT LEAVE IT! WHOOOO! USA #1!!!!!!!1111

Exactly. How about you move to North Korea?

I like to see a man proud of the place in which he lives. I like to see a man live so that his place will be proud of him. ~Abraham Lincoln

“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive.” -Thomas Jefferson


“I have no fear that the result of our experiment will be that men may be trusted to govern themselves without a master.” -Thomas Jefferson

[Octopod]

Yet we also have...

"The proposition that the people are the best keepers of their own liberties is not true. They are the worst conceivable, they are no keepers at all; they can neither judge, act, think, or will, as a political body." -John Adams

I can quote some old dudes too. Who gives a fuck.

[RadarScope1]

I have never voted in my life. My personal feeling is that if I participate then I am legitimizing a form a government I highly disagree with. That said I actually feel kind of sick to my stomache thinking that Scott Brown could win. Man that would fucking suck.

You have it backwards. If you don't agree, then vote to change it. How much it will change is debatable. But nothing changes without it.

[Limewater]

Exactly. How about you move to North Korea?

No. I'll remain here and get punched in the face, rather than go to North Korea and get kicked in the crotch.

The fact that there are a lot of worse places to live than the United State is irrelevant. It doesn't make democracy a "good" system.

I don't. I'm pretty iffy on this whole democracy thing anyway. I don't want other people voting for stuff that affects me. With internet voting, it will be even more people voting for stuff that affects me. Where is that a good thing?

I don't see how this will really change from what's done today except to save you 15-20 minutes at the polls.

15-20 minutes? It took me two hours to get through the line during the last presidential election.

Currently, voting is kind of inconvenient. It creates a barrier for participation. One has to care about the issues and candidates enough to actually go to the polls or fill out and mail in an absentee ballot. Lowering the barrier to entry just means that more people who care less about the issues will be voting, and their barely-caring, irrelevant to them vote will count just as much as my passionate, very relevant to me vote.

You're voting for various people to represent your interests, the interests of the local area, your state/province, and your country. You're not voting directly on some policy/law.

What state do you live in? Have you ever voted in state or local elections? Actual policy/law comes up quite a bit at those levels. The most well-known recent example is probably Prop. 8 in California.

[Limewater]

I have never voted in my life. My personal feeling is that if I participate then I am legitimizing a form a government I highly disagree with. That said I actually feel kind of sick to my stomache thinking that Scott Brown could win. Man that would fucking suck.

You have it backwards. If you don't agree, then vote to change it. How much it will change is debatable. But nothing changes without it.

Who has a better right to complain about getting punched in the face? A guy who is just standing there, minding his own business, or a guy who participates in a boxing match?

Clearly, Octopod. The reason we still have the form of government we do is because YOU DIDN'T VOTE HARD ENOUGH!!!!!

[Mod_Man_Extreme]

Dating my sister

Who is this mystical sister that keeps popping up, anyway, I'm intriugued.