Capcom Abandoning Wii?

[Niode]

Really? I thought it was supposed to be identical to the GC version but with the wii remote controls and the PS2 content. That's really shitty if it doesn't have proper cutscenes any more

[(-_-)]

I meant all the other Resident Evils, the controls are terrible.

(-_-) is exactly what I meant by hardcore zealots. You'd rather play a game because the controls are harder? Do you get some sort of strange satisfaction knowing that you are making the game unnecessarily difficult for yourself? This has nothing to do with difficulty level, that's different. What I'm talking about is like playing command and conquer on the 360 and saying it's better than using a mouse because the controls are harder. Maybe it's just me, but that seems completely bizarre to me.

7k, regarding the Wii controls, maybe you need to calibrate your Wii, when I played it my crosshair was always rock steady. It may be that you're too far from your TV/Sensor bar or that your Wii remote was dirty, I only get get wobbly pointer on the Wii if I'm sat an awkward angle or if the sensor bar isn't all the way to the front of the TV and some of it is obscured.

Besides, the Wii version is the definite version anyway, since it has in game cutscenes (the PS2 version has pre-rendered, so your costume changes don't affect the cut-scenes), plus it has all the content the PS2 version had and for the moaners you can just plug in a GC controller and play it like the GC version anyway.

I never said anywhere that I would rather play a game because the controls are more difficult on a different system. I prefer the feedback of playing it with a controller and analogue sticks. I even stated I'd never played it on the wii and this was just how I saw it. I'd never opt for a console version of a pc rts had I the option. I just see the controls for resident evil 4 as one of the features that retained the "horror" aspect of the game. I wouldn't play Devil May Cry with a keyboard because it's harder. From the experience I HAVE had with the wii, I don't see that version of RE4 being my favourite. The wiimote cursor lags behind your real time movement enough for it to bother me. I just see different types of controls as being an integral part of how you play. In an rts the challenge is in management and control. The challenge in an action game like Devil May Cry or God of War would be your timing and accessiblity of your attacks and combos from a comfortable interface. In that case, a controller would be best as there is no stretching of fingers across keyboards because everything can be done quickly with two thumbs and maybe two fingers. But resident evil, for me, has always been a survival horror game, even if it's departed from that a lot. The control was at least one component of the game that retained that aspect. Sure it's not optimal, but that's what makes it scary in 4. I see the wiimote as "cheating" because the game wasn't designed for such precise realtime aiming. It takes away from the last little bit of horror factor left in the game. May I have zealot status removed now?

[Niode]

That's what I'm saying though. You're saying the controls add to the 'horror' of the game, you mean that it makes you tense because the aiming sucks with a controller. That kind of shit frustrates the hell out of me, a game isn't worth playing to me if every time I die I go "fucking piece of shit controls". That's a design flaw.

You prefer the game with a controller because it's harder. You say it's cheating to use the wii controls. Why? Because it's easier. Therefore proving my point.

[the7k]

That's what I'm saying though. You're saying the controls add to the 'horror' of the game, you mean that it makes you tense because the aiming sucks with a controller. That kind of shit frustrates the hell out of me, a game isn't worth playing to me if every time I die I go "fucking piece of shit controls". That's a design flaw.

You prefer the game with a controller because it's harder. You say it's cheating to use the wii controls. Why? Because it's easier. Therefore proving my point.

Even though I don't agree with your "Wii Controls > Gamecube Controls" sentiments, I do agree with the rest of what you said.

The reason I prefer the Gamecube controls is because I find them more comfortable to use - it certainly has nothing to do with the game being "harder" due to the controls. Difficulty should only come from the gameplay, not the controls - otherwise, you're just left with Sony's Stupid Piece Of Shit That Doesn't Fucking Work.

I kinda doubt the Wii controls could make the game easier anyway. Even if they were perfect, I found it to be no trouble at all to get through RE4 using little more than the knife most the game. I had enough herbs and boxes of ammo to start my own pharmacy/gun store.

[(-_-)]

That's what I'm saying though. You're saying the controls add to the 'horror' of the game, you mean that it makes you tense because the aiming sucks with a controller. That kind of shit frustrates the hell out of me, a game isn't worth playing to me if every time I die I go "fucking piece of shit controls". That's a design flaw.

You prefer the game with a controller because it's harder. You say it's cheating to use the wii controls. Why? Because it's easier. Therefore proving my point.

Ok fine. But I still get labeled a Zealot for 1 game?

[Niode]

Sorry for lumping you in with the rest of them, but I get sick and tired of people saying I'm not playing Resident Evil 4 properly because I'm playing it on the Wii, with the wii controls. I like these controls, they work well for me, I don't blame the system when I die, I blame myself for not being better. I like that. That's what makes a game enjoyable and makes me keep trying.

It's not that I prefer 'easy' games, I don't. I always play games on the hardest difficulty available. I enjoy improving myself. But when the control system is flawed (IE the Resi games) that's when I find it frustrating to play. When something like Resi 4 Wii came along it was like a breath of fresh air, now I can finally play this game and understand what the fuss is about.

When a game pretty much forces you to get headshots as much as possible (unlike the old Resis where it was more about the orientation, headshots didn't really matter, you could just run past most of the zombies and only kill the ones in your way, that's fine. The controls were flawed but it never stopped me enjoying Resident Evil 2, it was the only way that game would work, given the pre-rendered backgrounds) giving you a flawed aiming paradigm to struggle with instead of a pointer a la FPS games with a mouse seems like a recipe for much swearing and frustration to me. If you enjoy playing this game with a controller, then more power to you, I can't, it's a pain in the arse. I simply cannot play the PS2 version I have tried 'n' tried and died 'n' died.

[RCBH928]

so which is the better RE4 version? Wii or GC?

[Dylan]

so which is the better RE4 version? Wii or GC?

They are literally identical, the Wii version is a port of the GC version. Unless you want to use the Wiimote, there's no reason to consider them any different.

[the7k]

so which is the better RE4 version? Wii or GC?

They are literally identical, the Wii version is a port of the GC version. Unless you want to use the Wiimote, there's no reason to consider them any different.

Actually, they aren't identical. The Wii version has recorded cut-scenes instead of in-game cutscenes, and the Wii version also has the PS2 bonus content.

[Dylan]

Actually, they aren't identical. The Wii version has recorded cut-scenes instead of in-game cutscenes, and the Wii version also has the PS2 bonus content.

The PS2 version had bonus content?

*Ker-check*

Hm, I suppose you're right. Guess my cousin didn't know what he was talking about (of course as opposed to me not knowing what I'm talking about).