NES2 Q

Post by **RadarScope1** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:41 pm

OK, this is probably a truly dumb question, but my curiosity is getting the better of me. I'm at a used game story this weekend a guy tells me he thought the North American NES 2 is capable of playing Famicom games because it doesn't have a 10NES chip. I did some searching and found some allusions to it being able to play PAL games because of this, but nothing about J games. I think if this were true, I'd know about it by now but, hey, I can't know everything right?

Anyone here want to set me straight on this?

Post by **Mozgus** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:45 pm

Hmm, that's interesting. I'm rusty on exactly the number of pins each region's carts use, and which ones do what exactly. But don't the USA carts have a few more pins, and without those pins receiving a connection, wouldn't the game not work?

Post by **extrarice** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:49 pm

You will need a 72-pin to 60-pin converter (usually found in very early NES releases, like Excitebike, Gyromite, etc) so the Japanese Famicom cart will fit in a US NES slot. However, unlike the Toaster NES, you do not need to bypass a region lockout chip on the main board.

Post by **metaleggman** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:15 am

With the NES2, it would be possible to play Famicom games with a simple pin adapter. You would just need to create a simple one. Of course, that would be painstakingly difficult, so you should just buy one that bypasses 10NES anyways. But your friend or peer is correct if he takes into account that a pin adapter would have to be used.

Post by **marurun** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:36 am

Some famicom games will never play correctly in a NES without modification of the NES. Any game that contains an additional sound chip, the NES lacks the pins to output the sound through its internal sound system. You'd have to address that in order for the Japanese Castlevania 3 to work completely, for example.

Post by **extrarice** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:02 pm

marurun wrote:Some famicom games will never play correctly in a NES without modification of the NES. Any game that contains an additional sound chip, the NES lacks the pins to output the sound through its internal sound system. You'd have to address that in order for the Japanese Castlevania 3 to work completely, for example.

Correct. The NES lacks the FM sound capabilities that the Famicom had. Famicom Disk System games also had better sound than their US counterparts (Metroid, for example).

Post by **Mozgus** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:22 pm

extrarice wrote:
marurun wrote:Some famicom games will never play correctly in a NES without modification of the NES. Any game that contains an additional sound chip, the NES lacks the pins to output the sound through its internal sound system. You'd have to address that in order for the Japanese Castlevania 3 to work completely, for example.

Correct. The NES lacks the FM sound capabilities that the Famicom had. Famicom Disk System games also had better sound than their US counterparts (Metroid, for example).

Metroid actually wasn't better or worse. Just a little different. In fact a couple of the short themes sound way off pitch. Castlevania 3's music however was MUCH better in Japan.

Post by **metaleggman** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:25 pm

Mozgus wrote:
extrarice wrote:
marurun wrote:Some famicom games will never play correctly in a NES without modification of the NES. Any game that contains an additional sound chip, the NES lacks the pins to output the sound through its internal sound system. You'd have to address that in order for the Japanese Castlevania 3 to work completely, for example.

Correct. The NES lacks the FM sound capabilities that the Famicom had. Famicom Disk System games also had better sound than their US counterparts (Metroid, for example).

Metroid actually wasn't better or worse. Just a little different. In fact a couple of the short themes sound way off pitch. Castlevania 3's music however was MUCH better in Japan.

I think the graphics were better in Japan too, since the special chip dealt with music and graphics...This is the one game which makes me want to buy the Japanese version and a AV Famicom! That and Mr. Gimmick, both pretty expensive tho... :lol:

Post by **Mozgus** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:31 am

metaleggman wrote:I think the graphics were better in Japan too, since the special chip dealt with music and graphics...This is the one game which makes me want to buy the Japanese version and a AV Famicom! That and Mr. Gimmick, both pretty expensive tho...

Graphics seem identical to me. Honestly, the sound effects are annoying the shit out of me. I much prefer the USA version except for one...major difference:

It saves!

Post by **metaleggman** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:54 am

Mozgus wrote:
metaleggman wrote:I think the graphics were better in Japan too, since the special chip dealt with music and graphics...This is the one game which makes me want to buy the Japanese version and a AV Famicom! That and Mr. Gimmick, both pretty expensive tho...

Graphics seem identical to me. Honestly, the sound effects are annoying the shit out of me. I much prefer the USA version except for one...major difference:

It saves!

Lol, I love the fact it saves too. Coolest save menu I've seen from the NES/Famicom. But I my comment was directed at the Japanese version of Castlevania 3. Lol, sorry bout that.