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Inazuma wrote:I would pay the child support I was required to pay, and do nothing more. I would flat out refuse to ever see the kid or spend time with him. I would also never see his mother again and cut off all forms of communication. Hopefully this would help prevent more unwanted kids from being born in the future. It sounds harsh, but it's actually for the sake of children.
Doing the absolute minimum required by law for the child is actually for your sake. Don't even try to sugarcoat it as if you were doing society and the child some form of service. It's especially funny that you wrote the above post, because earlier you were playing the role of high-and-mighty with this wonderful piece of work:
Inazuma wrote:If you don't want to make sacrifices and want to keep up a high quality of life, don't have a baby. If you choose to have a baby, you need to understand that raising the baby will cost you time, money and bring with it new challenges and problems.

Either decision is fine. What bothers me is when irresponsible selfish people choose to have babies and end up doing a shitty job at raising them. I also think it's silly to have a baby and then complain about having to raise the baby later.
You go on this tirade about shitty parenting, yet when pressed with the question that if you accidentally had a baby, you openly admit that you would intentionally choose to do a shitty job of raising one by completely neglecting its existence and choosing to do the absolute, bare minimum. Aren't you something special.
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Nice work, Parn, I like you already.
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It seems I spoke too soon. :|
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Parn wrote:
Inazuma wrote:I would pay the child support I was required to pay, and do nothing more. I would flat out refuse to ever see the kid or spend time with him. I would also never see his mother again and cut off all forms of communication. Hopefully this would help prevent more unwanted kids from being born in the future. It sounds harsh, but it's actually for the sake of children.
Doing the absolute minimum required by law for the child is actually for your sake. Don't even try to sugarcoat it as if you were doing society and the child some form of service. It's especially funny that you wrote the above post, because earlier you were playing the role of high-and-mighty with this wonderful piece of work:
Inazuma wrote:If you don't want to make sacrifices and want to keep up a high quality of life, don't have a baby. If you choose to have a baby, you need to understand that raising the baby will cost you time, money and bring with it new challenges and problems.

Either decision is fine. What bothers me is when irresponsible selfish people choose to have babies and end up doing a shitty job at raising them. I also think it's silly to have a baby and then complain about having to raise the baby later.
You go on this tirade about shitty parenting, yet when pressed with the question that if you accidentally had a baby, you openly admit that you would intentionally choose to do a shitty job of raising one by completely neglecting its existence and choosing to do the absolute, bare minimum. Aren't you something special.
Wrong. Let's say I chose to stick around and take care of my unwanted child. This would encourage women to have more unwanted children. It would send out the message "It's OK to have a child against the man's will in order to force him to stick around." We already have the government rewarding women who selfishly choose to have children with men who do not want them. I will not support something that harms children.

You guys need to look at the big picture before making important decisions. Harming one child in order to help many children (and men too) would be the best decision.
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Inazuma wrote: It would send out the message "It's OK to have a child against the man's will in order to force him to stick around." We already have the government rewarding women who selfishly choose to have children with men who do not want them. I will not support something that harms children.
Wow. That's incredibly sexist to think that the man's will is top priority. And neglecting a child to prove a point just makes you look like a dead beat dad. It doesn't help society.

In your defense on the point of stupid people breeding though, people really should watch the beginning of the comedy Idiocracy.
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Inazuma wrote:Wrong. Let's say I chose to stick around and take care of my unwanted child. This would encourage women to have more unwanted children. It would send out the message "It's OK to have a child against the man's will in order to force him to stick around." We already have the government rewarding women who selfishly choose to have children with men who do not want them. I will not support something that harms children.

You guys need to look at the big picture before making important decisions. Harming one child in order to help many children (and men too) would be the best decision.
I don't believe this hogwash of "unwanted" children. Thats why condoms were made. In my "wild" days I wore a condom whether a women told me she was birth control or not. Also, if you don't want a child then don't have sex. You act like the female party magically took your penis and inserted it into herself. It takes two people to make a baby so just quit with all this woman bashing.
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@ Parn
I like your avatar. I read your post as if Steve Smith was speaking when he gets upset.

@Inazuma
Oh, I get it now. If you get a girl pregnant it's her fault and because she didn't get an abortion it's her responsability to take care of, while you do the legal minimum. Which I am sure is one of the laws you don't think is right.

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Can we use some of the auction funds to pay for Inazuma to have a vasectomy? He doesn't want kids or take care of them if he had them, so let's all pervent this situation from happening. The world doesn't need another deadbeat dad and a messed up kid.
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pepharytheworm wrote: @ Racketeers
Can we use some of the auction funds to pay for Inazuma to have a vasectomy? He doesn't want kids or take care of them if he had them, so let's all pervent this situation from happening. The world doesn't need another deadbeat dad and a messed up kid.
Nah we could just use that money to hire a hitman instead.....
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pepharytheworm wrote:@Inazuma
Oh, I get it now. If you get a girl pregnant it's her fault and because she didn't get an abortion it's her responsability to take care of, while you do the legal minimum. Which I am sure is one of the laws you don't think is right.

@ Racketeers
Can we use some of the auction funds to pay for Inazuma to have a vasectomy? He doesn't want kids or take care of them if he had them, so let's all pervent this situation from happening. The world doesn't need another deadbeat dad and a messed up kid.
If a girl chooses to have my baby without my permission, it's not my responsibility. That would be a horrible thing for her to do and I would never support it.

I already had a vasectomy a few years ago. I never ever want to have kids so why wouldn't I have it done? Condoms are only around 95% successful. A man who doesn't want children but only uses condoms is gambling with his money every time he has sex.
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My only real issue with Inazuma is that he belittles everyone that doesn't have the same opinion or share the same lifestyle choices as he does. I don't begrudge him anything about what he feels is right for his own life. I just wish he would do the same for everyone else.

I am married for 10 years now. I have 3 kids (12,10,7). My oldest daughter who is 12 is from before my marriage and her mother has always had custody. I love my family and whatever sacrifices I make for them are my choice. I don't appreciate being called stupid for that.

Sure, my lifestyle isn't for everyone. Hell, sometimes it isn't even for me. Anything that is worth something is going to be difficult sometimes. Watching my kids grow up and teaching them how to be good people is more rewarding than I could possibly explain to someone that has never experienced it. Having someone that is willing to give you the devotion of a life together and be open to the world about the fact that you are their choice is something that I can't explain to someone who hasn't lived it. I'm not trying to say that my choices are the right ones...just that they are the right ones for me.

I am constantly being insulted every time a thread like this pops up and Inazuma takes part in it. I'm a big boy and I'll live but it sure as hell gets annoying after a while. This is for you Inazuma and I want you to read it closely.



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Look, I don't want to be a coroner. The job has many unappealing qualities for my tastes. However, I don't think that the person who decides to do it is "stupid". In fact I am grateful to the people who do the things and live the lives that I don't want to. Someone has to do it after all.

If everyone wasn't "stupid" by your standards we would go extinct as a species.
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