Glenn Beck

[Octopod]

It is the whatever section. This is the proper place for this thread.

[Jrecee]

People who don't want to talk about politics should stay out of political topics on videogame forums.

[Snickerd00dle]

People who don't want to talk about politics should stay out of political topics on videogame forums.

nice

[DNT 2.5]

Benn Gleck,

Glad he isn't in Canada, This comes to mind though...

[hailrazer]

I actually posted right after seeing a daily show segment on last night's episode. They were running clips of Glenn Beck talking about what a great investment gold is on his show, then about how gold prices go up during times of economic fear and instability, then they showed that he's a spokesperson for goldline. Honestly it's probably just as much a conspiracy theory as the type of stuff he blurts out on his show, but it makes more sense than creating acronyms for OBAMA that spell the end of the world.

OMG you mean he gets paid by companies who advertise on his show.
No way!!

Oh wait everyone in Radio gets paid by their sponsors.

You think Paul Harvey wasn't paid by every single product he touted on his show?
Of course he was.

People bash Glenn Beck because he is right a lot of the time and it scares people.
Of course he is wrong and biased a lot also.

Just remember he is a fusion of news and entertainment.

[Octopod]

Never mind. I have nothing to say.

[dsheinem]

People bash Glenn Beck because he is right a lot of the time

Like when? Seriously, what has he ever been "right" about? I challenge you to find examples of anything he's warned about or had suspicions about that turned out to be true. Even his grasp of American values, history, etc. is all wrong wrong wrong.

...Just remember he is a fusion of news and entertainment.

There's a right way and a wrong way to fuse these two. His is the wrong way, because too many people don't know it is part-shtick, and end up making real material political decisions based on his bullshit. Limbaugh is guilty of the same thing, as is - frankly - Olberman much of the time. Political viewpoints aside, all of these a-holes pass themselves off as news, as a source of good information, and as a place to find reasoned arguments: they aren't.

[the7k]

There's a right way and a wrong way to fuse these two. His is the wrong way, because too many people don't know it is part-shtick, and end up making real material political decisions based on his bullshit. Limbaugh is guilty of the same thing, as is - frankly - Olberman much of the time. Political viewpoints aside, all of these a-holes pass themselves off as news, as a source of good information, and as a place to find reasoned arguments: they aren't.

My thoughts exactly. If you are going to be a clown dressed as a journalist, do it with other clowns, not journalists.

It's because people take the things these "Talking Heads" say seriously - because they want to be taken seriously - that so many people on both the right and the left are so ignorant and venomous.

[hailrazer]

People bash Glenn Beck because he is right a lot of the time

Like when? Seriously, what has he ever been "right" about? I challenge you to find examples of anything he's warned about or had suspicions about that turned out to be true. Even his grasp of American values, history, etc. is all wrong wrong wrong.

Close minded people say that someone is "Always" wrong or "Always" right.

He has told people exactly how things were going to turn out. Like the jobless rate escalating tremendously despite all that the Government has done with "creating" jobs.

Like the National debt spiraling out of control .

All things he said would happen before Obama was elected.

Etc, etc.

But like I said he has been wrong about a lot of things and he has exaggerated a lot of things.

I agree on some of his points and laugh at others.

if you think he has never been right about anything, you probably just have a personal problem with him and refuse to agree with anything he says. But that's your right. I don't care.

And I will not respond further to this thread because it really is pointless and just a matter of opinion which everyone has and everyone is different

[dsheinem]

People bash Glenn Beck because he is right a lot of the time

Like when? Seriously, what has he ever been "right" about? I challenge you to find examples of anything he's warned about or had suspicions about that turned out to be true. Even his grasp of American values, history, etc. is all wrong wrong wrong.

Close minded people say that someone is "Always" wrong or "Always" right.

He has told people exactly how things were going to turn out. Like the jobless rate escalating tremendously despite all that the Government has done with "creating" jobs.

Like the National debt spiraling out of control .

All things he said would happen before Obama was elected.

Etc, etc.

But like I said he has been wrong about a lot of things and he has exaggerated a lot of things.

I agree on some of his points and laugh at others.

if you think he has never been right about anything, you probably just have a personal problem with him and refuse to agree with anything he says. But that's your right. I don't care.

And I will not respond further to this thread because it really is pointless and just a matter of opinion which everyone has and everyone is different

Sorry, I'm not buying that it's "just a matter of opinion" bullshit. I have to hear that line from clueless students all the time. The kinds of opinions people form about ideologues like Beck have material consequences, and to pretend that simply "que sera sera" is irresponsible and ignorant. So is pre-emptively refusing to engage in any kind debate where you might be proven wrong - this is of course the same kind of rhetorical tactic that people like Beck espouse.

That said, you're right, I do have a personal problem with Beck. My personal problem with him is that he engages in fear-mongering and hate-speech. I'm glad you are bright enough to laugh most of this off, but there's ample evidence that a healthy population of his audience is not. I'm terrified by what they may end up doing to this country and our already shit-political dialogue.

Also, I'm glad you raised some specific points. He projected worsening job numbers? Who hasn't? Even the White House has projected for a long time now that things will get worse before they get better. No administration could create jobs fast enough to compensate for the losses incurred by a long-declining economy. Anyone who thinks that our current economic situation has much at all to do with the current administration's policies doesn't know much about national or global economics.

The same is true for the National Debt - although "out of control" is a matter of perspective - the writing has been on the wall for so long that Beck himself isn't bringing anything to the table.

As for "All things he said would happen before Obama was elected" - that's just vague. For example, I know he likes to advocate that Obama'd create a Marxist/Communist dicatorship - and I don't know that any objective observer can see that, even if the gov't does have more regulatory power than they did under Bush...

Consider this another call for a "Debate" forum, BTW.