TG-16 hookups

[Hatta]

A friend of mine was getting rid of "junk" and gave me what was left of his video game collection. Included was a turbo duo with no cables or controllers, but a nice pile of games. The power port is at least nicely labeled. 10V DC, positive tip. I assume a universal AC adapter would work fine?

The AV looks like the same cable you'd use for a Genesis Model 1, SMS, C64, etc. I'll have to pick up another one. Will I get stereo from it? Anyone know of an s-video mod?

And for controls, anyone got a turboduo controller, or tg-16 controller with adapter? I'd kind of prefer the 2nd, since I got a TG-16 multitap with it. Actually, these look like standard DIN connectors. I could build myself an adapter pretty easy . Either way I'll need a pad, lemme know if you have an extra.

Edit: While we're on the topic, can this thing play burned CDs? Can it play burned PC-Engine CD games?

[Breetai]

I'm not sure about the power supply, but you'd better get a definite answer before trying because you don't want to wreck your Duo!!!

A Genesis AV cable will indeed work in the Duo, but it doesn't have stereo. I'm not sure about doing an s-video mod, but others here (and over at pcenginefx.com) DO know how to do it.

I have extra Duo pads from Japan. PM me if you want. You can buy them from anywhere online, really. The Japanese PC Engine pads and the American Duo are the same. It's only the Turbographx-16 pads that are different. Also, they are standard mini din connectors. Here's an interesting site where somebody wires an NES controller to work in a PC Engine/Turboduo.

Yes, the Turboduo can read burnt CDs and it's region free! It cannot, unfortunately, read Japanese PC Engine HuCards. Burn or import all of the CD games you want (except Arcade CDs)!

[Anapan]

The guy at Consolegoods.co.uk has 2 AV cables available, one that fits Megadrive 1, Master System 1, PC Engine, Neo Geo AES and Neo Geo CD but doesn't give stereo output, the other is specifically designed for pc engine consoles to get stereo sound.

http://www.robwebb1.plus.com/pce/pce.htm

PC engine can't do S-video so there are no cables for that. The most common mod for the console is a RGB mod which gives excellent results.

[Hobie-wan]

And for controls, anyone got a turboduo controller, or tg-16 controller with adapter? I'd kind of prefer the 2nd, since I got a TG-16 multitap with it. Actually, these look like standard DIN connectors. I could build myself an adapter pretty easy . Either way I'll need a pad, lemme know if you have an extra.

Yes, they are standard. Duo and PCE are 8 pin mini din. TG-16 is 8 pin din for controllers. I made my own TG-16 controller extensions, making an adapter will be just as easy. Duo and PCE AV out is 4 pin din.

Pinout info for all of it here: http://www.gamesx.com/index.php

[Breetai]

And for controls, anyone got a turboduo controller, or tg-16 controller with adapter? I'd kind of prefer the 2nd, since I got a TG-16 multitap with it. Actually, these look like standard DIN connectors. I could build myself an adapter pretty easy . Either way I'll need a pad, lemme know if you have an extra.

Yes, they are standard. Duo and PCE are 8 pin mini din. TG-16 is 8 pin din for controllers. I made my own TG-16 controller extensions, making an adapter will be just as easy. Duo and PCE AV out is 4 pin din.

Pinout info for all of it here: http://www.gamesx.com/index.php

Nice link.

[Hatta]

It cannot, unfortunately, read Japanese PC Engine HuCards. Burn or import all of the CD games you want (except Arcade CDs)!

Darn. Guess I won't be playing Sapphire on this thing unless I get around to region modding it.

I think I'll stick with TG-16 pads, since I have the TG-16 multitap. That way I can build just one converter/extension for the multi-tap instead of one for each controller.

No S-video is a bit of a bummer. I'm going to have to build an RGB to YUV converter sometime.

[Breetai]

It cannot, unfortunately, read Japanese PC Engine HuCards. Burn or import all of the CD games you want (except Arcade CDs)!

Darn. Guess I won't be playing Sapphire on this thing unless I get around to region modding it.

That's only one of the few Arcade card games worth playing on it. There really aren't many. Don't be too sad!

[Hatta]

Is there a list somewhere? I googled a bit and couldn't find one.

I did find some good information on hacking together an AC adapter. I'll paste it here for future reference:

when i ordered that turbo duo sized plug i decided to order some other plugs for a ac adapta plug side project.
Plugs were ordered from http://www.electronicplus.com/. they don't seem to have a minimum order.
This place also has plugs but they have a $20 minimum http://minute-man.com/

I wanted to be able to use the ac adapters of the 3 main common systems on my turbo duo. The SNES,Sega genesis 1 and 2.
I was able to get the plugs for the genny 1 and genny 2. The snes plug is harder to find and i found it at the $20 minimum order place but all i want is 1 plug.(is a cheapo)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/jetbue7/yyyy.jpg
just has the turbo duo male and genny 1 and 2 female. The genny 2 was straight through wires the genny 1 has the wires reversed.
Behold as i bend sega hardware to do turbo duo's bidding!:

If i can get that really small sega ac adapter that was with the genesis 3 i can have a really tiny adapter for my duo


The specs are:

TurboDuo
Input: 120V AC 60HZ 16W
Output: 10V DC 1000Ma
positive tip
plug Outer Diameter 6.3mm. Inner Diameter 3.0mm
radio shack adaptaplug type Q

Super Nintendo Entertainment System SNS-002
Input AC 120V 60Hz 17W
Output 10V DC 850Ma
Negative Tip
INLINE POWER PLUG WITH CENTER PIN
O.D. 7.5mm I.D. 4.5 with a pin 1mm
No radioshack plug

Genesis MK-1602
Input: 120V 60Hz 17W
Output: 9V DC 1.2A
Negative Tip
plug O.D. 5.5mm I.D. 2.1mm
radioshack adaptaplug type M

nomad,32x,genesis 2,pico MK-2103
Input: 120V AV 60Hz 15W
Output: 10V DC 0.85A
positive tip
plug O.D. 4.75mm. I.D. 1.7mm
radio shack adaptaplug type C

there technical names are coaxial plug type or coaxial power plugs and pcb mount power female or pcb mounted coaxial jacks.

I tested the genny 2 plug for over an hour with my duo with no problem. No over heating on either the duo or ac adapter but genny 2 ac's do get hot even when plugged in a genesis. I haven't been able to find my genny 1 ac adapter. Gave it away or its in this maze of a house. It is untested but will be soon.
The SNES one will have to wait till i can find a cheaper female plug.

Odd things i noticed when putting the original ac adapters to a multimeter is that all of them have higher voltages than whats printed on the label. snes 13v,genny 2 12.5v,genny 1 ?(cant find) I don't have a original turbo duo ac but if its like the one i recycled it has a reading of 12 v.

The Universal ac adapter ive been using is at 9v 900 ma and has an accurate reading on the meter.

As soon as i started using the nec recycled and the genny 2 ac adapter cd games seemed to go faster. faster loading times especially with Dracula x. Could just be my eyes playing tricks on me but i never seen the konami logo show up so fast before. I think my old ac adapter was way underpowered and effected everything. I don't even hear that much searching noises from the lens and stuff. I cant say anything for sure till i do more testing like have my 2 duos run with my old ac and the new ac and connect them to 2 tv's. But il do that later.

If you guys make anything like this be very careful and make sure the wires are rightly set to negative and positive and stuff. Don't explode your system ](*,)

Looks like it doesn't need the full 1000mA to run. 10V 850mA AC adapters are pretty easy to come by, so I should be able to get one hacked together fairly cheaply. Sweet!

[Hobie-wan]

No S-video is a bit of a bummer. I'm going to have to build an RGB to YUV converter sometime.

I think the composite looks pretty decent from NEC systems, especially if you're used to looking at what the Genesis vomits on the screen through composite.

[Breetai]

No S-video is a bit of a bummer. I'm going to have to build an RGB to YUV converter sometime.

I think the composite looks pretty decent from NEC systems, especially if you're used to looking at what the Genesis vomits on the screen through composite.

1000% agree!!!

The stock PCE actually looks really good. Hell, the stock PCE through RF looks better than some systems on composite (ie. Genesis, Neo Geo AES). I've compared a few games side-by-side on the Virtual Console through component to the Duo on composite (Dracula X, Saint Dragon and Salamander), and, well the Wii is better, the Duo looks totally fine. This is on an HD-CRT Sony Trinitron.

If I were to upgrade the video on a system, I'd worry about the Genesis or NG AES LONG before the PCE.