Inazuma wrote:I drive a Toyota but don't consider it an automobile. I'm wearing Nikes and don't like to think of them as shoes. I eat Carls Jr for lunch everyday and never eat fast food. People can say or believe whatever they want but that doesn't make them right or correct.
I never said that they're not technically PC's. It's just that - whether anyone likes it or not - the term "PC" generally isn't associated with Macs. Of course, depending on how the word "personal" is being used, I'd say that Macs are less qualified for the term, given the fact that Macs look exactly as Apple wants them to look, not as the customers do.
You know, I'm curious...does anyone actually make custom Mac cases?
the Personal Computer is a type of computer, like the mac, the amiga, the atari st ect. ect.
It was a type of computer, during the home computer era, and it was the one that prevailed. macs are not PCs they are mac computers (or at least they didn't use to be. lately I've heard they made the architecture similar to the pcs so as to run windows)
likewise a hybrid car and a non-hybrid car, are both cars, but they work differently, and are a different category, despite both of them being called cars
BoneSnapDeez wrote:The success of a console is determined by how much I enjoy it.
lisalover1 wrote:I prefer to use Linux. For one, I like the idea of Live CDs; I can't tell you how many times my Knoppix DVD has saved my system after a huge crash. Also, I like it for it's most obvious advantage; it's free. I can download a new version of any Linux OS legally without paying hundreds of dollars. Also, the package manager is a tremendously useful feature; I use it quite often.
I've never paid hundreds of dollars for Windows. I paid 80 dollars for my XP upgrade, and 50 bucks for my Win7 upgrade. Very few people need the versions of Windows that cost tons of money.
Also, what are you doing to cause all these major crashes? I can count the number of crashes I've ever experienced on a few fingers. Maybe we're just using our computers for different things.
Linux being free is an advantage, but I just don't find it all that user friendly for your intermediate to advanced user. Experts, yes. Grandmas who are just checking e-mail, yes. It just doesn't work for me. I pay for useful software all the time, so I don't have a problem paying a bit for an operating system, especially when I can get it on sale.
Comics, RPG's, miniatures, and now retrogaming? I guess its time to learn to go without eating...
I just like Mac. I stay a few years behind the curb and its not too expensive (rocking a PowerBook G4 12" and a iMac G5 20" iSight right now.) I like how snappy it feels, and I like the user interface.
Now honestly, Windows isn't a bad OS in my eyes, but, I just prefer Mac. Ill throw a few reasons to have both.
Mac:
Usability
Speed
Creative applications
Just fucking works
Cheap to upgrade OS, resell value of machines tend to be higher (I still see iMac G5's going for 700-800 on Craigslist , Oh well I payed 400 for mine last month)
Windows:
Games
Inexpensive (to own a PC anyway)
Software compatibility and number of applications
like 80% of the world uses it so answers are everywhere for most problems
I have sony vegas and I love it. I also have final cut, but don't love it as much. A lot of that probably comes down to the fact that I just like windows more and when using final cut my workflow isn't the same. As stupid as it is a lot of times I just want a simple program to resize a copied image quickly and paint does the job. . . no paint on my mac. It's really just a lot of little things like this that add up.
At the end of the day you just use what you like and what gets the job done. If you've got a job that requires you to use one or the other, well deal with it, or find another job.
I also like the mercedes analogy. . . because it obviously wasn't written by anyone who likes cars lol. I wouldn't want one and it has nothing to do with the fact that I can't afford it.
I think the original question was well posed. My own answer:
I favor Windows, because, as far as I know:
1. To use Mac OS you need to buy proprietary hardware, which I feel is overpriced for what it is (regardless of having nice design, which I don't really care about).
I don't like the uniformity of the proprietary hardware either. Some people are claiming it to be an advantage when it isn't. It has pros and cons. A funny one is this time I heard some people accidentally swap their Mac notebooks on airports after security check (obviously when it comes to laptops this could happen in the rather unlikely case of 2 consecutive users of the same laptop). I think this is rather funny because I believe some percentage of Mac users enjoy being different, somewhat ironic I think.
Anyway, uniformity may lead to less compatibility issues at times, and it *should* lead to cheaper prices as the parts are getting mass produced. And yet custom building a PC is cheaper, and if you do it properly (or hire someone that does it properly) you won't have compatibility issues either. In fact, I have the impression that when it comes to peripherals there are often cases where Macs (despite their uniformity) have more issues than Windows, because the "3rd party" hardware manufacturers need to focus on Windows just due to market share.
2. Games.
You can say all you want that big companies put them on several platforms (which they do). But not all big companies do that, and if you go to other stuff like freeware games you are going to be missing out. I'm not claiming that there aren't enough games for a lifetime on Macs (emulators are sufficient for that, IMO - but note that won't satisfy the average gamer anyway).
I would still be upset about missing great freeware stuff and plenty of commercial Windows exclusives (although to be honest, with the consoles there are less genuine Windows exclusives). Heck, I'm a bit upset about missing the few (but existing) gems that are Mac exclusives.
3. Support. Just due to the user base, you get support.
This may be somewhat a repeat of 1. and 2. - hardware will have drivers to work on Windows, Games are made for Windows (and perhaps ported to Mac, when they are). In terms of hardware, obviously you are always going to be able to find mainstream stuff that works rather well or is even designed for Mac (even if it may be more expensive than otherwise, as the 1st party tends to be). Like the video output for projectors, I always see people with Macs carrying a conversion dongle, and I think they had to buy it. If you go and get some weirder, non-mainstream hardware like Saturn gamepad to USB boxes, or a light-gun to use on MAME, you can mostly rely on them working on Windows and not necessarily on Macs.
As for virus, they get made for Windows because of the user base as well. It's not because Mac OS is more resilient.
Macs:
too expensive to upgrade.
dont want to buy photoshop again.
douchebag factor.
Linux:
I ran dual boot for a while. I ended up never using it. None of the programs I use have a better open source version, and I can also use most of them in Windows anyways.
Windows:
2000 and XP are stable. Vista is garbage. Every machine gets an instant downgrade to XP.
, Oh well I payed 400 for mine last month)
