Xbox has ruined gaming

[MrPopo]

Well, working at a GameStop, I can tell you that you are only going to see the games that people sell back. I'm still waiting on someone to trade in a copy of Eternal Sonata for the PS3, but it just ain't happening.

I was looking at the new section.

But it's Gamestop. That's the "recently traded back" section. There is no new section anymore.

I personally prefer the PS3 because most of the 360 exclusives fall into one of two categories: sports titles (which I don't play, none can eclipse NBA Jam) and FPS/TPS games that control like ass compared to the PC. My 360 library consists of 3 RPGs (and a 4th pending, if fucking Bamco would confirm or deny Vesperia PS3 US release) and Raiden Fighter Aces. I actually have more downloaded titles on the 360 than retail releases. I stick with the PS3 for the cross platform fighters and other titles since I want my free multiplayer.

Personally, though, I don't see any of the three consoles being particularly strong like we had last generation. Really the DS is the strongest platform this generation. My DS collection is now larger than everything but my PC collection, and that's an unfair comparison due to the infinite life of the platform. I'm more pissed at the Xbox and the 360 for stealing several genres that belong on the PC and dumbing them down. FPS's and RTS's are being brought to the masses and having their features removed to make for a better console game. And let's not forget that monstrocity known as MechAssault. Thank God Smith & Tinker are making a proper Mech game, as well as the MMLL guys getting the noncommercial license.

[Mod_Man_Extreme]

Well, working at a GameStop, I can tell you that you are only going to see the games that people sell back. I'm still waiting on someone to trade in a copy of Eternal Sonata for the PS3, but it just ain't happening.

I was looking at the new section.

But it's Gamestop. That's the "recently traded back" section. There is no new section anymore.

No, we've still got plenty of new games, we're just not pushing them as hard as used. Ignore the guy at the counter when he asks if you'd like a used copy and that's all that really needs to be done.

[Niode]

I didn't say that you aimed it at me personally. I just said that the decision depends on the person. You're making it sound as if the 360 is superior to the 360 in every possible way, as if ANYONE will have OH SO MUCH MORE FUN with a 360 than a PS3.

If I had to choose between X360 or waiting a little longer for a PS3, I'd wait a little longer for a PS3. That list of exclusives you just threw up? The only ones that do appeal to me even a little bit are Left 4 Dead and Mass Effect. You know what those two titles have in common? If it is "They are exclusive to the Xbox 360", you'd be wrong.

The whole "Here's a list of games you should like" thing will only get you so far. Different people, Different tastes. A lot of people don't like ten tons of FPS games and racers. YMMV.

You could use that exact same argument against the PS3 though. What I'm saying is that the 360 gets you all the great exclusive games available for it AND all the great multiplatform titles at a much lower price point. You've also got to factor in that generally, PS3 games cost 10-20% more than their 360 counterparts in this country. Fewer, great titles for the PS3 come down in price quickly and overall, you can have a much better experience than the PS3 at a much smaller cost with the 360.

I have both a 360 and PS3 and my PS3 sits and collects dust apart from the odd game of Wipeout HD or Calling All Cars. You are not going to tell me that that console is superior to the 360 which I play at least once a day.

The only reason I can see anyone buying a PS3 over a 360 is idiotic, fanboy brand loyalty. Apart from the Bluray player, which isn't even a valid reason anymore since you can get a 360 and a bluray player for less than the price of a PS3.

[the7k]

I have both a 360 and PS3 and my PS3 sits and collects dust apart from the odd game of Wipeout HD or Calling All Cars. You are not going to tell me that that console is superior to the 360 which I play at least once a day.

The only reason I can see anyone buying a PS3 over a 360 is idiotic, fanboy brand loyalty. Apart from the Bluray player, which isn't even a valid reason anymore since you can get a 360 and a bluray player for less than the price of a PS3.

Again, this is coming down to what you personally want. Again, there is no superior - only superior TO YOU. Did you ever stop to think that maybe not everyone gives a shit about shooters and racing games?

So, only an idiotic fanboy would buy a PS3 over a 360? That makes you sound more like a fanboy than any PS3 user. I'm sorry, free online isn't enough for people anymore? Console-exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet, Valkyria Chronicles and Resistance aren't enough anymore? The best Blu-Ray player on the market isn't enough anymore?

Seriously, man - you sound like not just a fanboy, but a fanboy of the Nth degree. Calling anybody who doesn't have the exact same tastes as you an idiot? Yeah - that's real rational thinking right there, friend.

If anything, fanboyism was the one thing that was working against me in getting a PS3. Back then, it was popular to hate the PS3, and I was no different. Format Wars weren't even done when I finally decided to get a PS3, but I still wanted free online and Metal Gear Solid 4.

[Niode]

I have both a 360 and PS3 and my PS3 sits and collects dust apart from the odd game of Wipeout HD or Calling All Cars. You are not going to tell me that that console is superior to the 360 which I play at least once a day.

The only reason I can see anyone buying a PS3 over a 360 is idiotic, fanboy brand loyalty. Apart from the Bluray player, which isn't even a valid reason anymore since you can get a 360 and a bluray player for less than the price of a PS3.

Again, this is coming down to what you personally want. Again, there is no superior - only superior TO YOU. Did you ever stop to think that maybe not everyone gives a shit about shooters and racing games?

So, only an idiotic fanboy would buy a PS3 over a 360? That makes you sound more like a fanboy than any PS3 user. I'm sorry, free online isn't enough for people anymore? Console-exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet, Valkyria Chronicles and Resistance aren't enough anymore? The best Blu-Ray player on the market isn't enough anymore?

Seriously, man - you sound like not just a fanboy, but a fanboy of the Nth degree. Calling anybody who doesn't have the exact same tastes as you an idiot? Yeah - that's real rational thinking right there, friend.

If anything, fanboyism was the one thing that was working against me in getting a PS3. Back then, it was popular to hate the PS3, and I was no different. Format Wars weren't even done when I finally decided to get a PS3, but I still wanted free online and Metal Gear Solid 4.

I'm not talking about personal preference here. I'm talking about financial sense. You just aren't listening. I'm not a fanboy of anything. I own both a PS3 and a 360, all I'm saying that in my experience I've had far more entertainment and value out of my 360 than my PS3.

Regarding only shooters and sports titles, I own 0 sports titles for my 360, I own only Ridge Racer 6, Forza 2 and NFS: MW that are racers and fps, I only own Halo 3 and The Darkness. That's it, yet I own over 40 games for my 360. I'm sorry but you are talking out of your arse. There's plenty of genres available for the 360, there's plenty of genres available for both systems, but when the overlap of multiplatform games comes into it, why pay more?

You don't need to defend your PS3. I already have one. I know what they are like and the games available for it. I have come to the conclusion that you can get much more bang for your buck from a 360 than a PS3. I'm talking plain financial sense here not some blind obsession with a brand which is what a lot of people who buy the PS3 are doing it for, because it's a Playstation. I'm not saying that that's you and quite why you've taken such an offence to my statements is beyond me.

I personally find the 'added value' statements as Sony fed bullshit. It's what they said when they tried to justify why the PS3 was so much more expensive than it's rivals and I didn't buy it then, and I'm not going to buy it now from somebody regurgitating it verbatim. I don't know what prices are like in your country, perhaps both systems are on a much more level playing field, however in this country when you can pick up the 60GB 360 premium which comes with a HDMI cable (something the PS3 doesn't may I add) wireless controller, two free games and a bunch of accessories for £200 it just doesn't make sense to pay £300 for a PS3 which comes with a game, maybe another budget title or an HDMI cable if you're lucky. Plus when you factor in the same games that you want are much cheaper on one console than the other, Bioshock still costs about £30 pretty much everywhere on PS3, whereas you can get it for less than £10 everywhere fro the 360. It just doesn't make sense to buy a PS3, and when you factor in that there's only a handful of games worth playing that are exclusive to the system it just makes me think why bother paying the premium.

[lisalover1]

Well, working at a GameStop, I can tell you that you are only going to see the games that people sell back. I'm still waiting on someone to trade in a copy of Eternal Sonata for the PS3, but it just ain't happening.

I was looking at the new section.

But it's Gamestop. That's the "recently traded back" section. There is no new section anymore.

I personally prefer the PS3 because most of the 360 exclusives fall into one of two categories: sports titles (which I don't play, none can eclipse NBA Jam) and FPS/TPS games that control like ass compared to the PC. My 360 library consists of 3 RPGs (and a 4th pending, if fucking Bamco would confirm or deny Vesperia PS3 US release) and Raiden Fighter Aces. I actually have more downloaded titles on the 360 than retail releases. I stick with the PS3 for the cross platform fighters and other titles since I want my free multiplayer.

Personally, though, I don't see any of the three consoles being particularly strong like we had last generation. Really the DS is the strongest platform this generation. My DS collection is now larger than everything but my PC collection, and that's an unfair comparison due to the infinite life of the platform. I'm more pissed at the Xbox and the 360 for stealing several genres that belong on the PC and dumbing them down. FPS's and RTS's are being brought to the masses and having their features removed to make for a better console game. And let's not forget that monstrocity known as MechAssault. Thank God Smith & Tinker are making a proper Mech game, as well as the MMLL guys getting the noncommercial license.

Interesting. I guess everyone has different tastes. One of the reasons I stuck with the 360 initially was because of all the PC ports. I generally don't like playing games on my PC because controls always get too messy and confusing, whereas console controls are simple, since it's a predefined controller. Another reason is because I don't like to take up too much space on my Hard Drive, I just like to keep lots of space open. Even if a game's PC port is supposed to be much better, I will always play the console version. That's just my preference, though.

[Metalcrack]

If a FPS video game is available on the PC platform you should pick it up 99.9% of the time over a console version.

Personally, I'd love to do this, but I haven't had to upgrade my 3.5 year old console one bit to play the latest games. My 6 year old computer would take L4D and overspin the DVD to shatter it, just to say "F U"

I grew up on PC gaming, but I just can't afford to constantly upgrade it anymore. I love the controls, mods, patches, and free online multiplayer aspect, but the ease of use of my 360 keeps me from having to go this route.

[MrPopo]

You've also got to factor in that generally, PS3 games cost 10-20% more than their 360 counterparts in this country.

To be fair, in the US the 360 and PS3 games debut at the same new price. I can't speak as to what the used market does since I don't follow it.

[Flak Beard]

Who knew Budsmoka had so much insight into the game industry and Japanese culture in general. Please enlighten us more.

I don't want to touch the subject of PS3 vs. 360, because it is truly a matter of taste. I will say however that the broad generalizations about the 360 fan base are becoming tiresome and don't hold much weight at all. The idea that it is just a "poor man's PC" or a system for "fans of GTA ripoffs and FPS games" proves your not paying attention... at all. Last time I checked, it had the most robust lineup of JRPGs this generation along with a good variety of other genres.

[Niode]

Their RRP's are the same in this country but time and time again I will see games that are £40 at launch for the PS3 and £30 for the 360. Games for the 360 get price drops several weeks after launch yet PS3 titles don't. The only games at decent prices I see are games that were launch titles, or Metal Gear Solid 4.