Bit Torrent

Post by **lordofduct** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:00 pm

Ok... I know a good deal of you people here bit Torrent

I know it is well liked by so many people due to its huge boom in the internet community

BUT

Why the hell is it that every single time I use bit torrent it seems to me that I get shafted in Download speeds.

I use Rufus torrent manager on Ubuntu for all my torrents, I selected a healthy port range off my network and forwarded it all to that computer. But my DL speeds always suck in comparison to the people leeching off of me.

For instance I am DL'n 3 TV series right now (about 20 gigs)... I have only 5% of one of them done. But the other 2 I have 50% done. I notice in my manager I'm uploading my pieces to several users ranging from 5-7 KB/s to each of them. Where as The download rates I get off of these users is negligeable in comparison... usually around 0.5 - 1.5 KB/s.

Over all I am getting a download speed of about 8-9 KB/s although I am uploading at nearly 25-30 KB/s per torrent. Yeah I'm eating up about 80 KB/s of my bandwidth just so I can download at a rate of 20 KB/s.

The most annoying part is that these guys who are getting such good speeds off of me have like 80% of the torrent completed. Obviosily they have pieces of the torrent that I don't... they have anywheres from 30-50% of the full package which I don't have. And they give it to me at little speed... or I get choked all together and they give me nothing. WTF is with that?

Has anyone else seen this happening to them? What is the logics behind it? It really annoys me because I eat up so much of my upload speed and suffer in web surfing and other stuff merely so I get an unfair share of the torrent. Doesn't seem right to me, and it isn't like the program has a mind of its own saying Dyldo doesn't deserve speeds comparable to other users... there must be some reason for it.

Post by **Mozgus** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:22 pm

Try it without the router? I use uTorrent on Windows and it automatically port-forwards on my router. Great speeds, often at my max dl of 150KB/Sec.

Post by **lordofduct** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:27 pm

A) There is no way I can remove the router. I use my server to DL which is located on the other side of the house and is only accesible by terminal from this computer I am on right now. Also it IS the router, where the user is a member of the domain and I forward the ports onto itself for that user.

B) There are several computers hooked up to the network, I'm not gonna deprive each computer of internet merely to DL faster.

C) Thirdly the ports are forwarded through the IP table soulily to the user that the torrent manager is on. So it is as if it is the only one using those ports and should be comparable to the same speeds if I dedicated all ports to said server (via removing the IP tables).

Post by **4ppleseed** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:06 pm

Try a different client.

I used to get 5KBs and would spend hours flicking on and off ports to no avail.
Then I switched and it now kicks ass.

I dunno what's available to you on Linux but have a shop around.

Have you done one of those online port forward tests?

Post by **Mozgus** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:20 pm

lordofduct wrote:A) There is no way I can remove the router. I use my server to DL which is located on the other side of the house and is only accesible by terminal from this computer I am on right now. Also it IS the router, where the user is a member of the domain and I forward the ports onto itself for that user.

B) There are several computers hooked up to the network, I'm not gonna deprive each computer of internet merely to DL faster.

C) Thirdly the ports are forwarded through the IP table soulily to the user that the torrent manager is on. So it is as if it is the only one using those ports and should be comparable to the same speeds if I dedicated all ports to said server (via removing the IP tables).

I said "try". As in temporarily. Whatever, live with your crap speed then.

Post by **racketboy** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:48 pm

does it happen on all your torrents?

Post by **lordofduct** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:44 pm

Mozgus wrote:
lordofduct wrote:A) There is no way I can remove the router. I use my server to DL which is located on the other side of the house and is only accesible by terminal from this computer I am on right now. Also it IS the router, where the user is a member of the domain and I forward the ports onto itself for that user.

B) There are several computers hooked up to the network, I'm not gonna deprive each computer of internet merely to DL faster.

C) Thirdly the ports are forwarded through the IP table soulily to the user that the torrent manager is on. So it is as if it is the only one using those ports and should be comparable to the same speeds if I dedicated all ports to said server (via removing the IP tables).
I said "try". As in temporarily. Whatever, live with your crap speed then.

And as I said I can't 'try'... the machine doing the downloading is the router. How do you remove the router from the equation if the computer DL'n is doing the routing.

as for racket, I don't use bittorrent that often. The last time I used it was almost a year ago, so there isn't much I can compare too

Post by **racketboy** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:45 pm

lordofduct wrote:
Mozgus wrote:
lordofduct wrote:A) There is no way I can remove the router. I use my server to DL which is located on the other side of the house and is only accesible by terminal from this computer I am on right now. Also it IS the router, where the user is a member of the domain and I forward the ports onto itself for that user.

B) There are several computers hooked up to the network, I'm not gonna deprive each computer of internet merely to DL faster.

C) Thirdly the ports are forwarded through the IP table soulily to the user that the torrent manager is on. So it is as if it is the only one using those ports and should be comparable to the same speeds if I dedicated all ports to said server (via removing the IP tables).
I said "try". As in temporarily. Whatever, live with your crap speed then.
And as I said I can't 'try'

as for racket, I don't use bittorrent that often. The last time I used it was almost a year ago, so there isn't much I can compare too

Well, I was just wondering if maybe its because of the ratio of seeders and leechers, the tracker's settings, etc of that particular torrent

Post by **lordofduct** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:48 pm

eh... it's inconsequential

surprisingly after running it for 4 days at crap speeds... about an hour after posting this speeds jumped for no apparent reason. It isn't like I changed anything, nor is it like I gained a nominal amount of data to share.

I was just wondering if other people have noticed such scenarios on their machines as well.

Post by **Mozgus** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:12 pm

lordofduct wrote:And as I said I can't 'try'... the machine doing the downloading is the router. How do you remove the router from the equation if the computer DL'n is doing the routing.

as for racket, I don't use bittorrent that often. The last time I used it was almost a year ago, so there isn't much I can compare too

Clarification: Connect this single PC to your single ISP directly, JUST TO SEE IF IT IMPROVES THE SITUATION. If it does, then you know your networking setup is to blame. If not, then blame Linux, your ISP, or the trackers you use.

Don't nip at someone just because they don't understand your unorthodox network setup.