Toejam and Earl 2 prototype

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Toejam and Earl 2 prototype

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Hi all. I've been trying to spread this across various forums so far to no interest, so i thought I'd try here since you guys may actually have an appreciation for this series. Recently a huge list of prototypes from DreamTR's(a prolific prototype collector) collection has been posted up at the hidden palace website, a site that dumps prototypes.
Before I go on, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND. Most of these prototypes(assuming you don't pay for all of it out of your own pocket) are gotten and dumped through a community effort. In other words, people donate their desired amount and once enough people have donated enough money to reach the grand total, the cartridge is then sent to drx, the site owner, and he then dumps it and shares it on his site. Here is the list at his forums:
http://forums.hidden-palace.org/viewtopic.php?t=2815

I am very interested in the Toejam and Earl 2 prototype. Why this one? Well besides having a lot of memories with that game, this is one of few games listed there that specifically says next to it "DIFFERENT FROM RELEASED VERSION." The owner of these prototypes, DreamTR, does not have the time to play through any of these games for people and note for them whether the game is different from the final game that was released, or contains actual beta content. Thus the majority of games listed there you would be donating your money for based on the CHANCE that it is anything worth the money. TJ&E2 stands out from the crowd as it states specifically next to it that it is different from the final, thus less of a chance that it's just the final game on EPROMs or something.

The total needed for the game is $200. Does anyone want to help me in getting this game dumped?I've already donated $27 for it myself, as it's all I've got. Some people still question if it will be any different from the final game, even though it states specifically it is different from the released version. Some people also ask that we get screens of the game and are told exactly what is different, even though if you take the time to read what I'm writing and actually read that whole topic rather than browse though it you'll notice that it's been stated already that DreamTR does NOT take time out to test it for you. If he knew the true value of the game it would likely be much higher than $200 anyway heh.

I guess that's it. I've done my best to stress the important details since other forums keep asking the same questions when it's all answered as well as it can be in that topic. You may be able to notice I've gotten stressed by that a bit :P But ya, just to give you guys a fair idea, remember that when TJ&E2 was being developed it first started out as a true sequel to the first game i.e it was a top-view game in the same spirit as the original. This could very well be a build of that version, before it became a sidescroller. This could also be a beta of the sidescroller with deleted levels and ideas etc.. As with all protos up for sale there this is based a lot on chance, so you have to take that into consideration. That's also why a community effort is best as if you only donate a select amount then you don't make nearly as much of a loss and someone who just payed for it all by themselves, only to get the final game in return.

Sorry for making this so long. Let me know what you guys think then :)
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Why don't you ask the owner to test out the beta and note the differences from the original?
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Re: Toejam and Earl 2 prototype

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:lol:

I forgot to mention fi anyone actually does want to donate you go here:
http://www.hidden-palace.org/?contribute

Make sure to write in the description when you send the money that it is for this game in particular :)

BTW I decided to go for it and donated what I've got, which is $27. Made sure to note that in the beginning post too. Hopefully this encourages people..or something 8)
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Re: Toejam and Earl 2 prototype

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Shameless bump.

A new topic's been started due to my donation to start things off.
http://forums.hidden-palace.org/viewtopic.php?t=2821

So if anyone does donate, post in there. There's other stuff to gawk at too or to consider donating towards if you wish :D
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Re: Toejam and Earl 2 prototype

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Im the only one who finds disgusting to donate $$ for a backup? :? ...
I don't know about this site , but it looks like business to me( torrent tracker + leaked/proto game lists ) ...
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It's either you pay or you rather have them lost forever and kept in someones collection forever. It's also peoples own decision if they wish to comply with this and use their own money from their own wallets to support this type of stuff. This is a discussion that's gone on far too many times so I'll leave it at that.

And drx's site is anything but a pirate tracker like the pirate bay or something. It's certainly not a business that he profits off of either...

Does someone not like prototypes? :p Anyway I think we're at $130 left for the dump of this game now. As I hopefully come across more money hopefully more donate. We're getting there! :)
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I've always wondered why the dumpers wouldn't just do something like give the owner a security deposit, get the game sent to them for dumping, then send it back and get the deposit back. Are the collectors just that much of an asshole to require money for the dumping process? I fully understand needing to have security in case something goes wrong.
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MrPopo wrote:I've always wondered why the dumpers wouldn't just do something like give the owner a security deposit, get the game sent to them for dumping, then send it back and get the deposit back. Are the collectors just that much of an asshole to require money for the dumping process? I fully understand needing to have security in case something goes wrong.
I think the collector feel that the value of their game goes down a lot once it's dumped and released to the public. So they're out whatever cash they spent on the game.
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That's why I'll never be a real collector. I buy my stuff to enjoy it, and I'll buy things that are cool, but coolness doesn't diminish just because other people might have it as well.
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Re: Toejam and Earl 2 prototype

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Yes yes, we get it. I don't think this topic needs to go into something that's been discussed countless times elsewhere. If anyone else posts in here please stay on topic. Really, you won't be getting anywhere trying to stat your position; no one cares.
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