Do you think Sony will ever pull ahead this generation?

[RCBH928]

Well I do not think Blu-ray size is going to give us better graphics or AI
because that has to do with CPU and other stuff I do not understand,

but I am guessing it will give us larger games, and the way I see it , games are already too large for the average human being at 60-70 hours of gameplay. Not to mention , larger games means more work, so more expense so more sales needed that basically means higher risk of commercial failure.

Do you really want a game that you can't complete before 200 hours of gameplay?
That is like you have to play 2 hours+ each day for three months so you can complete the game...

maybe next generation they can store graphics information, AI, something of that sort.

can't they make like catalogue CD's, like a CD that has all Horror movies of the 50's or like a CD with all SNES games ever created, I think the torrent size at UG is only 1 GB for that one.

Basically I think you can have a Blu-ray for all Genesis, SNES, N64, Master System, Nes, NEC , and more on one CD.

[Octopod]

Exactly. I put 120 hours into Fallout 3 and I still have not done any of the DLC. How much larger do games need to get?

[MrPopo]

Well I do not think Blu-ray size is going to give us better graphics or AI
because that has to do with CPU and other stuff I do not understand,

but I am guessing it will give us larger games, and the way I see it , games are already too large for the average human being at 60-70 hours of gameplay. Not to mention , larger games means more work, so more expense so more sales needed that basically means higher risk of commercial failure.

I have several 40 hour 360 games that run on 3-4 disks. I'd much rather have them on a Blu ray disk so I wouldn't have to swap.

[the7k]

I'm really glad that the whole 'Do Games Need To Be Bigger' mentality wasn't as popular back in the day as it is now. Imagine if speed runs of games lasting no longer than 30 minutes were still the norm? Never knew one could complain about a game having too much bang for your buck.

Are there games that are exceedingly long? Yes - only because they do nothing but recycle the same ideas over and over again. If a game can be 200+ hrs and still be fun, then that time will just fly and I'll complain that there needs to be more.

No one ever complains about too much of a good thing.

[Octopod]

The point is that they can already make really big fun games with the media at hand. Not that really big fun games arent wanted.

[RCBH928]

I didn't know single games came in multiple disks on 360, what game is that?

Getting bang for your buck is so 80's really. I would love to get a game pay $60 and play 1000 hours if it is still exciting until next year. Those were the days of pacman and the likes when you can't reach the end of the game you just play over and over, because there is so few games out there. Now there just so many games out there that you want to experience and spending 140 hours in one game is not worth it and sure is exciting to play something else. If we had one FPS, one RPG, one Platformer then I guess each one of us will buy that game and play it to death and the more hours the better. But when you have 100 FPS, 50 RPGs, 1000 platformers then spending so long on one game is not worth it I am sure soon it will be repetitive .

Honestly I will go the fewer games way. It saves money and give you bang for your buck, plus I love how the more people play a game they get skillful and find every little mini tiny secret in them. Now due to mass of quality games, they run through them really.

I think due to the high number of games, they should be cheaper in price so we get to experience more of them

[AmishSamurai]

I think due to the high number of games, they should be cheaper in price so we get to experience more of them

They keep the price as it is because they want you to buy their games and not the other people's.

I think there should be a happy medium when it comes to game length. It's cool if they make a long game, but oftentimes a lot of it is fake longetivity (unskippable pointless cutscenes, needlessly long paths that don't have anything, forced level grinding, overly long fighting animations, insane amounts of random encounters that you can beat the monsters instantly, but get no real exp from and just waste time on fight wooshes and victory themes). If they can cut back on those but still make a game long, more power to them.

[ZeroAX]

Gaming needs a bigger medium. Vice City might have fitted in a cd, but san andreas needed a dvd.


likewise, at the begining of the development of GTA4 rockstar said it owuld be 6 times the size of san andreas. Obviously that can't happen on a single dvd. 360 really should have had a blue ray. HD games have a lot of art, and they take a large amount of space. They have to compress them, in order to fit them in a single disk, and that drops the visual quality

[MrPopo]

I didn't know single games came in multiple disks on 360, what game is that?

Star Ocean - 3 discs
Lost Odyssey - 4 discs
Blue Dragon - 3 discs

I believe MGS4 also is multi-disc.

[ZeroAX]

I didn't know single games came in multiple disks on 360, what game is that?

Star Ocean - 3 discs
Lost Odyssey - 4 discs
Blue Dragon - 3 discs

I believe MGS4 also is multi-disc.

but the problem isn't with JRPGs. Changing the disk every few hours is no issue. But when you want to make MMO games, or openw world games in general, you can't have people swaping disks