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Optical to Digital audio......

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I'm having some trouble with the new TV I bought, It doesn't have an optical audio jack on it and since my xbox only has an optical audio out on it and I'm in need of a converter (if possible) or another solution.

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optical to coaxial digital audio
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into google search... on froogle you'll find a bunch of 20 dollar converters that convert optical to coax. I assume that is what you are looking for. If you are looking for a optical to analog converter... well then you're going to need to get a decoder to convert the signal; like a receiver or something.

advice about the converter... there is signal degragation, but seeing as you use your television as the receiver you probably won't notice the difference. Don't you have analog cables too? If your TV is your speaker the optical isn't really gonna add much to the experience. That is more for theatre systems and the sort... where the DD and DTS signals can be served over the optical cable. In the case of stereo being shoved through optical, well 2 analog cables have just the same amount of bandwidth... unless you trust your TVs decoder over the XBOXs decoder.

What I mean is with digital signals you send the digital data stored on the disk strait to a decoder of your choice instead of using the inital hardware reading the disk (i.e. DVD player, video game console). You do this for a couple reasons.

a) you have a dolby digital/DTS receiver and the hardware doesn't have multi-channle output
b) you have a decoder of higher quality then the hardware used to decode the stereo, DTS or DD signal. For instace I have a Denon 2 channel receiver for my CDs, I digitally send my CD players 2 channel audio to the receiver instead of via the analog cables because the receiver does a 100X better job then the CD-player. I also use optical cables in line with a sound card I have to another Denon 7 channel receiver because the card is great at authorizing and upsampling audio... but it isn't anywhere as good as my denon at decoding. That and I don't want the quality loss gained by sending it to the receiver through analog for its amplifier. Though it is a short distance for analog cables... when having 2000+ dollars in speakers it makes all that difference.

TVs generally don't have crap for decoders in it and I would trust the XBOX over the TV any day! ... that and it will save you 20 bucks.



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Thank you for the very detailed reply! I believe that the converter in your link is what I need, But I will try through my receiver first. Do you have any experience with the converters? I notice that they only have one connection, How would I use the two (red and white) audio cables from the converter?

I'm using my star wars xbox and the only connections that are available are component video and optical audio. If I could dismantle it a bit I could plug my own AV cable in, But it's a tight fit in there and I don't want to destroy it :lol:

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Oh.... your xbox cables don't get analog audio? (the red and white) that is weird.

Well the converter there is to convert digital optical to digital coaxial. Don't try using a splitter to get red and whites out of that little box because it will screw up your speakers (send static fuzz and nonsense)

That isn't specifically what you want though if you are trying to get Red and Whites. Like I said in the previous post... that requires a decoder. Your receiver can do that, as long as it has a digital input. If the receiver is from 2000 or later it should have atleast coax, if not optical. If it doesn't have optical then get the converter and plug into the "Coax digital input" or "Coax in" on the back of your receiver. Receivers/decoder hardware are the ONLY way to convert digital to analog (red and whites)... this means no plug in adapters, but real big hardware with power cables and everything.

That or run down to your local game store or Wal-Mart and pick up the XBOX component cables that DO have analog audio... they should look like this.
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I bet because it is the "Star Wars Edition" it comes with ONLY digital optical as a THX advertisement kinda thing (THX is Lucas, Lucas is Star Wars)

Where'd you get this xbox? I've never heard of a Star Wars edition XBOX.
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The Star Wars xbox is a modded xbox system that is put into the mellinum falcon Star Wars toy, The person that did the mod made it to where the component video and optical audio are the only ones that are sticking out of the system. The TV will take the component connection, But not the optical audio.

Sorry if I confused things by not mentioning the mod and thanks for trying to help me!
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I have the part in stock that you are looking for. I also sent you a PM. Here is a picture of the item


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Post by NeoRage »

Thank you retrogamer! I see where the optical plug goes, But how do I get the two channel audio (red and white cable) from the one hole out connection? (Sorry if I sound like an idiot, But I guess I am when it comes to the connections :P )

I didn't recieve a pm from you yet. :P
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Post by retrogamer »

I reread your post and I can offer two solutions to hook up your XBOX. Since your new TV does not have the fiber optic input but rather a digital coaxial input you would plug the digital coaxial cable into the box I have and connect the other end to your tv. The second port on the box is for the fiber optic cable. Plug one end into the box (input side) and the other into your XBOX. The standard XBOX does not have the fiber optic out option unless you have the advanced AV pack adapter plugged in to the back of the XBOX. I took a picture for you of the advanced AV pack that needs to be on the back of your XBOX to make that connection which is below. If you do not have one I can sell you one of mine.
With either option the red/white plus that you have do not need to be utilized since you are using the optical/coaxial method which will yield far superior sound quality then using the red/white plug ends. I also listed a pic of the Millenium Falcon XBOX which I assume you are speaking about.
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That's a pic of my xbox(or one like it) and that is a different box than the one that's inside of it.

Here are some pictures of the back of the system and TV. Sorry for the quality of the TV pics, But I had to do an upside down reach around shot :lol: I may have also missed some of the TV, If you think I did I will try again.


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It's a bit hard to make out the picture once enlarged. What is the port labeled to the right of the S-Video port? As far as the video end is concerned it is a direct jack to jack hookup since you have component jacks on the TV and XBOX.
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