lost_within wrote:........I saw the rear end of a fairly lady Z....you guys may have huge issues just like anywhere else in the world...but I swear when I look at your cars, it makes all the pain and suffering go away.
Doesn't looking at american cars make you forget all of our country's problems?
gradualmeltdown wrote:
Kinda mean to the otaku there. Tourists are tourists.
Glad someone else is with me on that. I mean, it's a little odd to have a "racial superiority" slide show where we all agree that it's all sorta... it's just not specifically right, coupled with what is essentially "fuck the geeks who stand out physically".
It went from "Get the gaijin out of Japan" to "Get the gaijin out of Akihabara".
Thanks for sharing this. I knew that the right-winged were strong in Japan, but this llustrates that fact a bit more.
I was really shocked about that bald guy. As a German, it's a bit disturbing to see those swastika tattoos (complete with Hitler salute). Things like that are strictly forbidden in this country. His website's also terrible. The name of his political party is written in German there, its meaning being equivalent to a Japanese version of the NSDAP. Sick.
gradualmeltdown wrote:
Kinda mean to the otaku there. Tourists are tourists.
Glad someone else is with me on that. I mean, it's a little odd to have a "racial superiority" slide show where we all agree that it's all sorta... it's just not specifically right, coupled with what is essentially "fuck the geeks who stand out physically".
It went from "Get the gaijin out of Japan" to "Get the gaijin out of Akihabara".
I'll elaborate further on that. There are the tourists who respect that they are in a foreign country, then there are the tourists who think they can do as they please because they are in a foreign country. I've seen some foreign otaku act pretty stupidly and disrespectful while in Japan, and it was them who I was thinking about when I wrote that. Didn't mean to generalize, but I really hate the people who come here and do that.
It's not just otaku, but that's who I see doing that a lot. Sorry for the confusion. I can't really side with these guys being a foreigner myself, but I somewhat agree with their preaching about how foreigners don't respect Japan because I have seen it first hand.
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blue_veilvet wrote:Thanks for sharing this. I knew that the right-winged were strong in Japan, but this llustrates that fact a bit more.
I was really shocked about that bald guy. As a German, it's a bit disturbing to see those swastika tattoos (complete with Hitler salute). Things like that are strictly forbidden in this country. His website's also terrible. The name of his political party is written in German there, its meaning being equivalent to a Japanese version of the NSDAP. Sick.
Yes, it's pretty f'd up that he's doing that. Swastikas (and I don't mean those characters that mark shrines) are used pretty loosely in Japan. It really has no bad meaning, and sometimes it's a fashion accessory. Something to do with Japan and Germany being allies during the war. They sell swastika clothing at trendy punk shops and swastika stickers at car shops. It's pretty sick.
that makes sense. There are plenty of ignorant travelers which include foreign otaku. you've just seen enough of it to be tired of it which is totally fine. Frustration can make things come out wrong. You seem cool so the comment was a little weird in that post.
First off, Germany does have a "shrine" to their World War II dead. It's the city of Dresden, used as a symbol of German civilian and military war dead and persecution, and currently treated as the "Mecca" of the European neo-nazi movement. Amongst their circles, the firebombing of Dresden is now being treated as an equivalence to Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, and even sometimes referred to as an equivalent to the Holocaust for innocent German people. Nazi movements(which in recent decades have been growing more powerful in Europe) make regular trips there to honor what they consider their fallen heroes.
As for Japan, Yasukuni Shrine is a symbol for all soldiers who died fighting for the Emperor. While we don't really care one way or the other when the Emperor or various politicians visit it(they honor their war dead, we honor ours), nations like China and the Koreas get upset, because included in the names of fallen soldiers from WWII are several men executed for crimes against humanity, particularly related to what happened in Nanking, or for what happened in Japanese prisons and POW camps.
As far as military in Japan is concerned, I was under the impression that that was something slowly gaining momentum within Japanese politics, regardless of its connection to the uyoku. I had heard that certain members of the LDP were favoring it, and so do some Americans because it would mean a more apparent force to help back American forces in the region if something were to occur with China, Russia, or North Korea. Some Americans are also expressing a desire to keep nuclear arsenals in Japan so we could strike quickly if North Korea made a move with its weapons(as it has threatened to do offensively). I highly doubt that the Japanese would ever allow nuclear weapons in their country, however. Of course, I've also heard North Korea claim we still had nuclear arsenals in South Korea(we pulled them out around 1992 with the collapse of the Soviet Union), as well as in Japan.
As far as a group interested in the return to Japanese imperialism, I'm also not surprised. Ever read anything by Yukio Mishima? You should look up the events surrounding his suicide by seppuku in 1970. There have been militias desiring the return of Japanese military might since at least the 1960s, and considering some of the Yakuza traditions and policies, I'm also not surprised to see them involved, if only as financiers.
And for the record, the Nazis weren't right-wing. They were socialists, of the National Socialist party, believing in state-controlled industry and racial superiority, while also supporting such issues as animal rights and environmentalism. They also had streaks of vegetarianism(including Hitler), to the point of considering making it mandatory at times. The belief that they were right-wing was partly put forward by Stalin so he'd have an excuse to fight back against their invasions and could crush their supporters as political enemies.
Swastikas were also present in various eastern religions as signs of peace and well being long before the Nazis started using it.
This is partly the reason I do not want to live in Japan. I think Japan is pretty much screwed up and the japanese mentality is not exactly helping , no offense intended. I know I would explode at a lot of things I belive are wrong and that would get my ass kicked quite a lot. Don't misunderstand me I know everything about the good sides of Japan but the bad ones turn me off. I would feel like a political pariah.
And for the record, the Nazis weren't right-wing. That were socialists, of the National Socialist party, believing in state-controlled industry and racial superiority, while also supporting such issues as animal rights and environmentalism. They also had streaks of vegetarianism(including Hitler), to the point of considering making it mandatory at times..
Economically Hitler was neither right-wing nor left-wing. He was mostly in the middle as far as I know.
I always found the "right-left" system outdated.
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