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Hey, I have not abandoned anything. I really like this discussion.

Thanx everyone for your input. This is really really great and it is helping me figure out movies to watch. Special thanx for Ack.

As I said, I am not looking for top movies with high scores like Titanic or Godfather, simply because I can go to any movie review site and just pick up top rated movies ever. I was looking for popular movies or cult movies that had impact on the people and to a certain time era. You know those movies would be sometimes be given a low ratings and lost between other low rated NOT worth watching movies.

I do not have any general genre that I like to watch, if the movie is good I enjoy from romance to action. There are two types of movies that I hate:
*Gory movies, where the director just uses blood and brains to make the movie look like its horror but its stupid ugly disgusting props, and the movie has nothing really to give out. One type of this kind of movies was a recent movie I think it was called Carnival with a dumb story with nothing better than people going into a circus like place and seeing ugly people with ugly stuff happening.

*I do not like to see slow movies. I discovered that earlier movies in the 40-60's for example take things to be very very slow. It gets boring. The French Connection was one type, there was a ton of talk , and for a movie with multiple Oscars I thought I see more action and more thrill. it was just so slow happening. I am not saying that it was a bad movie just slow. On the other hand I liked Chinatown. Maybe I had too much expectation for The French Connection.

Movies I don't usually like to see: Commercial movies with same type of formula. These movies are The Cleaner, College Road Trip, you know these kind of movies that its just the same thing happening nothing really unique. Its like your hungry and all there is to order is a burger. Its not bad movie, its just over and over again. I am sure there are movies out there are more worth while. Also include satire movies like Scary Movie and Dodgeball and Here comes the Spartans. You get the idea

As for B-movies, I am not sure what that is. I get the idea they are bad movies? I know they are like low budget, but can low budget be good? I don't mind low budget if it is worth it really. I like to see a crappy movie every now and then, because it makes me and my friends have a laugh. Its fun when the scary monster is actually a joke.

If I tell you what movies I enjoyed then you will never know what appeals to me, because its really depending if the movie is good or not, for example the following movies are of the best I have ever watched(personal choice):
- Willy Wonka and Chocolate factory(70's one), -The Matrix , -The Jackal, The Rock , The Unusual Suspect, Beauty and the Beast..you see?

There is more that I personally like, for example an old movie that makes go crazy in nostalgia called Hackers and Dragon Hart I liked, and Sleepy Hollow.

I generally like things with mystery, money, business, computers, smart crimes(The Insider), its hard to categories. As I said anything that is good.

On the other hand, this topic about what is popular out there.

As for Asian movies I LOVED Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu hustle. I also am in ever ending quest to watching any good asian movies, you know the ones where they are captured with different ratios, where the actors are thin and tall? Bruce Lee movies were good.

I have seen some movies of what you posted and I did say I hate slow movies because they are boring but if they are coupled with a good story I like. For example I did like One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest, Chinatown, and The Shinning.

I did enjoy: Godfather, Citizen Kane,The Good-The Bad-And The Ugly, Lawrence of Arabia and more of what you all suggested.

One movie I hated was Blade Runner. I really thought it sucked , it was too slow with nothing happening, am not sure what is so good of this movie? maybe it saw technology and its use in the future(for its time) but other than that, what else?

As for the top 2 movies of all time, Casablanca and Citizen Kane. I really enjoyed Citizen Kane and thought it was good(its a 70 year old movie!) and I could see why they rate it as the best movie ever. As for Casablanca, true its a unique story of a guy with a cafe or whatever in Morocco, but really? What is so good and exciting, its not bad its just ordinary.

I want to like Horror movies but usually these are the crappy ones. They are just ugly gory stuff that is NOT scary. I want to watch if any is good. Last one I thought was good is The Shinning. Psycho was good, 1408 worthwhile..etc.
Speaking of Horror can any one recommend a classic horror movie? I never watched one. Frankienstien >?

As for an era, I really like 80's and early 90's for the great nostalgia. I also liked late 90's I thought a lot of quality movies existed in that time era. I think I might not want to see any action movies pre-70's because they are so slow. I thought Rambo was slow! Maybe I had hopes for more action in that era, but I loved Rocky.

I also found a website for cult movies which really goes well with rackeyboy: retrojunk.com

Sorry for the long post, I thought I should cover a lot of points and reply to a lot of questions since you might think I abandoned the topic.

This is really great and I am building a movie list to see from your suggestions, so this is really helping

Note: The first movie I saw on your list suggested, luckily I found Videodrome on surprise. Although I thought it was ok, and maybe it was a bit gory for me(damn the ugly hand+ gun combo), I think I missed the point of the movie or what it wants to send as a message. But I think this movie has the seeds of what The Matrix is. Its funny when you think a certain idea is new but it has roots in another old thing. I will look up Videodrome to get more understanding. Of course, this movies is from the 80's so I must like it ;)
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You know, sometimes I really wonder what life is like in your country, kingmohd. Personally, having little to no contact with your home nation outside of conversations with you, I have no idea what all exists there. It surprises me sometimes what is available to you, especially when it concerns stuff that originated in the US marketplace. I don't mean that as a slight against Bahrain, I just think it's interesting how far some of our stuff can go and who all can access it. Are they generally translated into Arabic, or do you watch them in English or what?

It's like when Uwe Boll's Alone in the Dark beat out War of the Worlds in ticket sales in China(I'm pretty sure it was China).

I think part of the problem you had with Casablanca may be cultural. After all, it's mostly about Allies fighting Axis in Morocco in WWII, something that speaks well to the United States, France, and Great Britain but won't necessarily hold much impact with you. Plus, there's the suave nature of Bogart, the way he could just talk in his films and light up the room. I tell you, Bogart is easily one of my favorite actors, hands down. Casablanca's an adventure movie, but it's one about fast talking and high stakes with a solid romance to back it all up. In fact, talking is one of the things Bogart shined at, and I've always absolutely loved his lines. His presentations of Sam Spade(The Maltese Falcon) and Phillip Marlowe(The Big Sleep) are amazing as well. If you're not so interested in the talking bit, that's a real shame, but some of the impact may also be lost in translation.

Film noir and a lot of crime films involve fast talking, and their stories are generally pretty thrilling, but they're not necessarily action packed. It may just come down to a case by case basis. Blade Runner was a futuristic update of film noir, set in a cyberpunk dystopia. The setting is one of the high points, and the philosophy of the replicants is an important consideration...it's a thinking movie, not an action film, though it does have some action packed moments.

A B-Movie is typically a lower budget film, with lesser known and usually lesser quality actors. Sometimes a B-Movie will be excellent, like Army of Darkness. Sometimes...well, not so much. There are technically ranks below that, but then you're talking about the level of many made-for-TV films, like the crap the Sci-Fi channel produces. Also, many of those over-the-top gorefests you mentioned disliking? Often B-Movies, though I wouldn't necessarily rule them out. Evil Dead 2 is absurdly crazy, and extremely glory, but you can't help but love it because it's so much fun.

Also, personal backgrounds will affect people's opinions of films. For instance, since Bahrain's predominately a Muslim nation(and I don't know if you are), films like The Exorcist and Rosemary's Baby may not have the same impact on you. I don't mean to say you won't appreciate them, and I believe you'll get the ideas behind them the same as anyone else, but will a Christian representation of evil really get to you that much? It remains to be seen.

In the meantime, I'm glad you responded. I like talking film with people from other countries. It gives some quality perspective, you know?
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I totally agree with you on Blade Runner. It's one of those movies you hear about constantly, and they release a million different editions of. I always saw bits and pieces of it on tv but it never got my interest and I figured I needed to watch it from the beginning to get into it. I finally bought the special ultra mega directors cut edition and was really underwhelmed. I think you had to be there in the 80s when it came out and it was something new and different to really appreciate it. A lot of cult classics are called that for a reason. Others I was not impressed with: Rocky Horror Picture Show and Buckaroo Banzai.
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No offense, but you Americans like live in a cage. Its really you and then the whole world. Most of you got no idea what happens out of the US and you do not care really. I don't blame you, if I was an American I would be the same. I got everything in my home country, its cheaper, and I can travel around from beaches to mountains and everything in between. Who cares about the outside world!? Your media is insane, for god sakes, who cares about a woman with 8 children to be a featured thing in news?! Or that Miss California, which is a no body, made a comment against gay marriages, which is her right in a free to speak country like America.

Why I am saying this is because you are wondering how things are out there. This is ironic, but trust me, the third world countries are more aware of the world than Americans. Going back to the topic. I am not being insulting or anything, I am just stating facts.

I am guessing that you are thinking in America, they watch American movies and in France they watch French movies, and in Egypt the watch egyptian movies. I don't blame you. Really, the only movies out there is American movies. If you see a movie its an American movie. I will be honest, no body else makes movies worth mentioning except for India. So the WHOLE world is watching your movies. Do not look for foreign movies, they hardly exist. Having American movies dubbed in Arabic would sound completely ridiculous , a lot of people here understand English and for the others the method of choice is to have it subtitled. In fact, I was amazed that in Europe they have them dubbed, I thought everyone subtitled. Like The Matrix is French or Spanish. In my own opinion it really alters the movie being bilingual myself.

As for Casablanca, I really know everything about the world war but I have to say it doesn't move me because I was not involved, but I am guessing so is most of the living humans today. I don't mind the line of the actor, but I am wondering why is it considered second best of all movies. I really do not see what makes it all that better than everything else. Sure its quite a nice classical movie, but 2nd best movie ever made?! I also think that nothing is lost in translation, I only have been dealing with English on a daily basis since I was 6 years old.

I do not mind talking as long as there is things happening. I am looking forward to see film noir. I am changing my mind a bit about blade runner now that I know its supposed to be a futuristic film noir. I guess it was amazing for its time.

You get the exact idea of mine when talking about B-movies. I did like Evil Dead for example, and it is a B-movie, but it was funny I think and worth watch. But others are just stupid gore and pretty worthless. Are there any good B-movies?

As for cultural impact, I do not think I saw Rosemary baby, but I did see The Exorcist. It is here just as popular as it is there. Maybe it had more impact. We are more aware of exorcism and believe in it a lot more. Supposedly in had more effect on us than you. Truth to be told though, although we are Muslims and refuse insult to all religious icons, the cross doesn't really mean anything to us, its just a crossed wooden sticks. Since they say the scariest part was when she was stabbing herself with the cross, it had no effect on us, actually some of us thought it was funny for why would she do that. Since you brought up cultural differences, I am thinking of what if it was replaced with one my my sacred icons. Pretty disturbing really.

Although language is no barrier if you understand it, culture is. The other day I really had hard time understand why Dave Chappelle was making fun of black people and fried chicken. I didn't see what was funny. Later some one told me that its a stereotype in America that African-American people love fried chicken. Fairly new idea.

I haven't noticed any one speaking of Indian movies though. They are basically the best movies after American ones. If you like movies and got no idea, let me tell you all about it. In the mean time, more suggestions of "must see" movies are welcomed.
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Nah, I'm not insulted, I actually agree with you on how worthless our news media can get. Though I do take the time to learn about what's going on in foreign nations, most of what I pay attention to is stuff that is currently relevant to the United States(what's happening in Pakistan or between Georgia or Russia), or I follow what's happening in Japan. The Liberal Democratic Party(LDP) just had a bit of an upsurge after the head of the Democratic Party of Japan(DPJ) was recently found to be accepting bribes. I feel that's good news because I support the LDP, and they've been facing some serious problems since the pension scandal and all the corruption surrounding PM Shinzo Abe last year. I wasn't really shocked when he stepped down for Yasuo Fukuda, though I was when Fukuda stepped down. Still, now they've got Taro Aso, which makes the youth pretty happy(he's popular with younger Japanese from what I know of), and he'd a hardliner towards China, which I respect. Unfortunately I have to read their newspapers to learn any of this, as none of it gets reported in the US. Our media's a joke.

I'm not saying that I figured everybody watched their movies, I realize that Hollywood is very pervasive, but sometimes it surprises me just how pervasive it is. Europe's got its own film industries, and Britain, France, and Germany have all produced some spectacular films(so has Russia), I just figured international audiences would get more international flavor. Bolliwood(Indian movies) haven't really caught on yet in the states, but we're steadily seeing more and more.

And when I say lost in translation, I don't just mean literally. I mean, due to cultural differences, some of the inferences aren't understood the same, like with The Exorcist. I will say, if you want one that might have more cultural relativity, there's a Turkish low-budget flick released a little while after Exorcist that's almost exactly the same called Seytan that features a heavier Islamic influence. I haven't seen it, so I couldn't tell you of its quality, but you might like it.

And for the record, the scene where she stabs herself with a crucifix? I found it hilarious.

If you want a good American film noir(it's originally a French idea) to really start you off in the genre, I'd say watch The Maltese Falcon. It's not nearly as dark as many other film noirs, but many of the staples of the genre are present, so it'll give you a good feel for it.
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Most movie markets are dominated by American productions, even in Europe. Some governments prop up their national cinema, like France.

Brazil also subsidies its movies, and most are rubbish (that's what happens when an industry is divorced from actual support of its customers). Though, to be fair, there has been some really good movies, such as City of God, Elite Squad, The Man Who Copied, etc. But if I go to the movies right now, all I will see is Hollywood.
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what the guy above me said is true.
Good movies due exist in other countries, but they are small in numbers. I would not expect that each country would put out 3 movies worth watching compared to Hollywood movies. Of course, except for India.

As I said, India is the only other movie maker in the world really. Other countries just try to push it to get the extra attention. I am also not sure why only Americans succeeded in this huge business. English's world wide spread is not the answer as Britain, South Africa, Australia and more countries has English as their official language yet they don't pump out movies.
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"Your media is insane, for god sakes, who cares about a woman with 8 children to be a featured thing in news?!"

Morons. This woman did this stuff for attention and she got it.

To be fair this statement sort of reflects how the viewpoint americans have is had by other people in the world towards us. You say all we see of other countries is the cliches and stereotypes. It's true but works the other way around too. Not all of us give a damn about these garbage news stories and not all of us carry guns or are completely disinterested in the outside world. The thing is that, as I understand it, the world media constantly puts us in the spotly, which is logical because we're one of the, if not the most influential country on earth.

So if you can imagine how much news you hear about America, and you don't even live here, imagine how USA-centric our media is. You've really got to go out of your way here to learn about other countries, you can't just flip on the nightly news and expect to learn how the world works.
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Oh and back on topic I haven't seen the duel but it's on my movies to see list.
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