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RCBH928 wrote:

I stumbled upon this clip on youtube. Its from 21 years ago and looks like it was shot yesterday. Any one feels a bit uncomfortable with this? its like time have not moved.
  1. This just shows my point on wrestling. 21 years ago same acting same everything. Just like watching the same movie over and over.
  2. your average weekly tv show had Lesnar vs Mark Henry then Angle vs Hogan. This is like all time legendary matches card compared the joke that I see today on PPVs. This makes Uso vs Riegns in summer slam as main event sound like a joke imo at least in star names.
Huh? I'd rather watch Uso vs Reigns than Brock Lesnar vs Mark Henry or Angle vs Hogan, to be honest.

Edit: Hey, that was a great post, Raging Justice.
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Raging Justice wrote:I don't know what the future will bring, but I believe that if Okada and Mercedes Monet go to WWE it will show that the hype surrounding AEW really and truly is gone and Tony Kahn truly is a failure. Those are the last truly big signings available for AEW, and maybe the only two signings that could realistically generate some buzz for the company again.
New report came out claiming that both are expected to go to AEW. Okada is believed to be debuting around Revolution (maybe at Revolution?), Mercedes is expected to be appearing very soon.

The dirt sheets are ridiculous though (although not as ridiculous as the various clickbait wrestling blogs like Cultaholic etc who report on everything they say, with a several hour delay, and twist things). Two days ago one of them was reporting that Okada was definitely signing with WWE and would be going to NXT.

I grow tired of constantly reading what all the talking heads have to say.

I suspect though, if Sasha doesn't return tomorrow night at the Rumble, then she's probably AEW bound.
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Based on some new reports, Vince McMahon may be gone for good. There's still a part of me that wonders if all of this stuff coming out was the result of a behind the scenes family feud. After all, "it's all about the game, and how you play it. It's all about control, and if you can take it"

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@raging justice

-I am not interested in women wrestling but I will give you that. Thats the only thing that is more interesting today as prior to that women basically did some gymnastics for 15min in the ring. The video you posted on women matches, action wise, was much more top tier than a lot of the boring men matches we see regularly on RAW.

-I kind of hate Cena compared to legends like Macho Man , Sting, and Hogan he is a joke but if I was Vince I would love him. Its all about the money and I bet Cena brought in more money to WWE than Austin and The Rock. There are only 2 wrestling I know which had "wrestling years" named behind them and that is Hogan and Cena like it or not.

-If you think the fans during Daniel Bryan time were something, you should check out ECW fans.

-Why did Lucha Underground end? sounds good from what you talk about them.

-AEW is more serious thread to WWE, but I must say TNA roster at some time was better. It had Sting, Flair, Hogan, Kurt, AJ Styles, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Jeff Jarrett... those sound more interesting to than the current AEW characters IMO.
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Different opinions. I think Kurt and Hogan are in much higher tier in wrestling than USO unless you are one of the people who care about "in ring action" despite the characters behind it. Personally if I do watch wrestling I watch it for entertainment and the characters behind it is big part of it. The Undertaker is not legendary because of his in ring manoeuvres, its because his character.
Raging Justice wrote:Based on some new reports, Vince McMahon may be gone for good. There's still a part of me that wonders if all of this stuff coming out was the result of a behind the scenes family feud. After all, "it's all about the game, and how you play it. It's all about control, and if you can take it"
Vince should go. He is 78 years old for god's sake. He has been running WWE for 45 years.
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Raging Justice wrote:Based on some new reports, Vince McMahon may be gone for good. There's still a part of me that wonders if all of this stuff coming out was the result of a behind the scenes family feud. After all, "it's all about the game, and how you play it. It's all about control, and if you can take it"

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Meh, weren't both part of the "special investigation committee" that has transpired to be a massive whitewash that didn't even interview the alleged victim(s) and just let Vince quietly off the hook?

Stephanie even tried to lead a "thank you, Vince" chant after knowing full well what the allegations were.
RCBH928 wrote:unless you are one of the people who care about "in ring action" despite the characters behind it.
I absolutely am. Why would I want to watch people who can't wrestle for shit and whose matches are boring af? I would rather stick needles in my eyes than watch Hogan wrestle. I stopped watching WWE in January 2002, after watching it for about 6 or 7 years. The Royal Rumble PPV was the last thing I watched. I got back into wrestling around 2008 and I remember going onto forums and asking people for advice on what to catch up on. Anyways, long story short, the first thing I watched was Wrestlemania X8 and Jesus, I have never seen such an overrated and shitty match in all my life. That Hogan vs Rock match was god-awful. Just 12 minutes (or however long it was) of them whipping each other with Hogan's belt and posing. Ugh.

In all seriousness, the best part of wrestling is a combination of the two. Characters, charisma and stories are important. At least, Taker actually diversified his moveset and style in the latter half of his career. He is leagues ahead of someone like Hogan. I would argue that he was capable of wrestling some excellent matches when he has the right opponent. His matches with Shawn Michaels and Kurt Angle were excellent.
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RCBH928 wrote:
Raging Justice wrote:Based on some new reports, Vince McMahon may be gone for good. There's still a part of me that wonders if all of this stuff coming out was the result of a behind the scenes family feud. After all, "it's all about the game, and how you play it. It's all about control, and if you can take it"
Vince should go. He is 78 years old for god's sake. He has been running WWE for 45 years.
If the allegations are true, he should go to jail. If you haven’t read them, don’t. They’re stomach churning.
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Indeed. As should anyone in WWE who helped cover up what he did and sweep it under the carpet...

In RR news:

"WWE is orchestrating an unexpected and unconventional surprise for tonight's Royal Rumble premium live event. It has been described as an "off the wall surprise."

In preparation for tonight's event, WWE has purportedly been in contact with external organizations about the possibility of featuring their wrestlers in the two Royal Rumble matches planned for this evening."

Sounds interesting.
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Lol I love how fickle wrestling fans and corporations are too.

"This is awful"
"Disgusting"
"How could this happen?"
*Random companies pull their sponsorship*

A couple of hours later...
*Vince McMahon retires*
*Name is removed from the WWE website*

"Ah good, everything is fine now"
"We can sponsor WWE again"
"Nothing to worry about now"

Lol these people in the promotion literally knew all about these allegations last year and probably knew about Vince's behaviour for decades, and chose not to properly investigate, not to talk to the alleged victim and just quietly condoned everything he did and was doing. No doubt they knew about Brock Lesnar's involvement too.

Pathetic.

But hey, it's wrestling. The business seems to attract a ton of shitty people and we as fans tend to have short memories.

Everyone from Darby Allin to Matt Riddle, from Stone Cold to Ric Flair, from Chris Jericho to Tazz has some gross allegations against them that have been forgotten about.
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Eddie Kingston is literally the worst wrestler on AEW's roster. His matches are so boring because HE CAN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING. His finisher is him basically hitting you with his flabby arm and this somehow knocks people out. For some reason, Tony Kahn thought it was a good idea to put three belts on this fucking joke. The guy is not athletic and has zero muscles on any part of his body. He looks like some average bum just came in from the street and stepped into a wrestling ring. There was a time when guys like him would be jobbers in WWE, people who got paid for no other reason than to get their asses kicked by the real stars.

Ugh.

Anyway, there's some good talent on AEW's women's roster right now. If they can just get the booking and creative in order, the division could be great. I was so happy to see Taya get promo time this week, and even happier that Morrison was on screen with her. My God, you talk about an underutilized talent, Morrison is that. I'd rather watch him wrestle than suffer through more Eddie Kingston matches. I like Lady Frost, I don't know if she's under contract with AEW though. Frost is like a Mortal Kombat character or something LOL. She looks like she should be in a fighting game. Mariah May looks like a fucking star, I don't know when AEW is gonna give this woman a push. I guess they need to pry her away from Toni Storm first. I'm not exaggerating when I say that she's got more potential than anyone they've had on their women's roster so far. She's young, she's hot, she's got personality, she's not shy around a microphone, and she can wrestle.
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