So what have you guys been watching lately?

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Like it or not, most of these questions and gripes can answered with one word: capitalism. Creators often care deeply about the shows and movies they make, but they are working in show business, which is at best a mix of art and commerce. If a creator can’t convince a studio that their project will be profitable, they’re not going to get funded.

Studios aren’t necessarily making the decisions that make them the most money, but they are *trying* to make the decisions that make them the most money. That’s where the metrics come in, as they try to make sense of what people will pay for. It’s neither exact, nor a science, but they depend on those numbers for decisions about approving/continuing projects, marketing, etc.

Given all that, it can still be hard to understand studio decisions these days because ten years into the streaming era, no one really understands how to make a lot of money from it. Cable tv was an *awesome* business to be in and so far streaming is a very poor substitute in terms of the money it brings in. Netflix got as big as it is by offering quality content for an absurdly low price for years. The other studios finally realized that streaming was the future and they didn’t want to be at the mercy of Netflix, so they started their own services and practically gave them away at launch. Shareholders loved to hear about millions people subscribing each quarter, but once they realized it’s not adding much to the bottom line, they became less thrilled.
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Sometimes writers go the other way. The first season of Twin Peaks ends with a ridiculous number of cliffhangers. That's partly because the show is an absurd take on soap operas and so they turned the cliffhanger trope up to 11, but also because they were hoping the network would pick it up to find out what happened next. I doubt that's why it got picked up but it did come back for a second season and they again ended it with a number of outrageous cliffhangers. Nothing was going to save it from the axe that time though.
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We also need to remember that mysteries and crime dramas are like THE most popular drama style in the US and Canada. Look at how long Law and Order and SVU ran, and then stuff like CSI and Criminal Minds, and Canada has their own takes on stuff like that that crossed over the border pretty easily. And then the UK has a lot of the murder mystery stuff as well. We just love us some killing. Even the podcast space has some super popular murder podcasts. My own wife is a 'Murderino'. I mean, it's no surprise that Netflix doesn't want to hype Mind Hunters, though, because there is a lot of fuss over there not being a 3rd season, so people who want to see it probably already know about it. Netflix also typically wants to hype their newer content because that demonstrates to shareholders that they are making content that captures eyeballs. Old content is money already spent. They need to justify continued spending.
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Why Netflix shows typically have a more finite shelf life than shows on cable.

Personally, I'd love to see them do an Orange is the New Black film, and possibly a line of comics. In the case of the latter, I'd do one-shots for noteworthy characters, limited series based on other characters (like the Denning sisters from season six) and an ongoing series set in the Chicago prison after season 5, essentially revealing what happened to the inmates sent to Chicago in between the end of season 5 and the final scene from the series finale.
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With my kid staying up a little later as he gets a little older it's been VERY challenging to watch anything on TV that's not appropriate for a 7-year old, either with or without my wife. I did have an opportunity this weekend to watch something while folding laundry. I watched the first two episodes of Netflix's One Piece adaptation. Now, I haven't watched the manga or the anime and don't really want to. I don't like the art style in the least, and I suspect I'd have other issues with it as well. But I wanted to give the live action a chance. It is definitely weird and cheesy, but the casting is interesting and I kind of enjoy how the series portrays mange and anime-like elements. Sometimes the special effects are... not great, but it doesn't seem to matter because the tone of the series is just so strange. There's a sense of whimsy to it that works well with real actors, interestingly. I probably won't be able to watch any more for quite a while, but we'll see.
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marurun wrote:I did have an opportunity this weekend to watch something while folding laundry. I watched the first two episodes of Netflix's One Piece adaptation.
Clearly it was good enough for you to stretch out laundry-folding into a two-hour job.
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Limewater wrote:
marurun wrote:I did have an opportunity this weekend to watch something while folding laundry. I watched the first two episodes of Netflix's One Piece adaptation.
Clearly it was good enough for you to stretch out laundry-folding into a two-hour job.
Nah, Maru's just a 90s sitcom dad; that's the competence level for domestic chores.
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Limewater wrote:
marurun wrote:I did have an opportunity this weekend to watch something while folding laundry. I watched the first two episodes of Netflix's One Piece adaptation.
Clearly it was good enough for you to stretch out laundry-folding into a two-hour job.
We have a habit of letting loads of clean laundry back up. It was several baskets. Also, I'm a slow folder.
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I know I've name-dropped this series enough in the past few days but if your kid likes horror then check out Are You Afraid of the Dark.

Fun fact: Gary's actor, Ross Hull, grew up to be a meteorologist.
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REPO Man wrote:I know I've name-dropped this series enough in the past few days but if your kid likes horror then check out Are You Afraid of the Dark.

Fun fact: Gary's actor, Ross Hull, grew up to be a meteorologist.
10 seasons? is there a an old one and a remake one?
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marurun wrote:We also need to remember that mysteries and crime dramas are like THE most popular drama style in the US and Canada. Look at how long Law and Order and SVU ran, and then stuff like CSI and Criminal Minds, and Canada has their own takes on stuff like that that crossed over the border pretty easily. And then the UK has a lot of the murder mystery stuff as well. We just love us some killing. Even the podcast space has some super popular murder podcasts.
Yeah, I have noticed this. They seem big with casual female TV watchers. Murder mysteries, HGTV shows, and whatever is on the Hallmark Channels (one of them even focuses completely on murder mysteries)

Personally, I find real life murder stuff far more interesting. I watch certain youtube channels that discuss real life murders, serial killers, unsolved murders, etc. Mr Ballen and Wendigoon are just two youtubers I watch that cover these things, but there are others too. I NEVER watch murder mystery shows on TV though. As a TV genre, I found them boring, but the real life stuff is compelling.
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