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Do any other consoles outside the dreamcast support VGA? HDMI WOrks on my monitor so that opens up 360 and ps3, but any older consoles?
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Not sure, I think Dreamcast was one of the first to natively support VGA, but im sure with the proper physical converters it can be done from rca video to vga. For the sound, all you'd need is a dual female RCA to headphone jack adapter, which radioshack sells in their audio section for real cheap, and run that to your monitor if it supports that or an external set of speakers.

-->RCA video to vga converter, to convert your game's video to VGA for your monitor, usually runs around this price:
http://www.svideo.com/video2vga1.html

-->And Audio to headphone (only if you need this type of connection, if not most stereo setups have the red and white inputs)
http://www.audioadapter.com/cgi-bin/com ... add=action

PS: If you want to run multiple old systems to one monitor like this, get a multi switch to handle source selection, then have the one output lines to those converters. Cheers!
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My PS2's modchip - ChipMod Pro+ 2.0 (Matrix infinity/modbo 7xx clone I think) has a video menu that lists VGA as an output. From what I read this forces/activates the same 640x480 Progressive mode as the Blaze VGA boot disk (which apparently does the job nicely too). It requires the Blaze VGA adapter cord, or a home-made one. I don't have the cord so I can't comment beyond that.

Any conversion boxes that just convert a lesser analog/compressed signal to VGA probably won't look like real VGA but more like a capture card's quality. In my experience it's usually grainy looking because it's not interpolated and deinterlaced the same as a CRT TV - either that or it would look blurry sorta like HD LCD TVs show the pictures but usually not as good as that for the cheaper ones. RCA and S-video are meant for CRTs and don't transfer enough data to support a real RGB signal.
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I know the Dreamcast has VGA support but for any other older consoles not sure.. 8)
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Snes does vga quite well actually. You can find the gc/snes/n64 vga cables on ebay for cheap.

ANYTHING can be played via vga with a converter box....but quality will be lacking.
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If you convert any signal that is not natively vga through a converter box to vga, it will look like ASS. Believe me, I bought one a few years ago with the same idea. There was alot of disappointment that day. A video signal is only going to look as good as it's weakest link, so if its outputting composite it will still look like basically like composite. Don't waste your time. Dreamcast looks super sweet through vga though, my flatscreen crt plus shenmue looks like a dream. 8)
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chipperkwah wrote:If you convert any signal that is not natively vga through a converter box to vga, it will look like ASS. Believe me, I bought one a few years ago with the same idea.
Yeah, I forgot to say something about that in my previous post... I assumed that the OP was interested in only getting his games to merely hook up to his monitor, but everyone's consensus is correct; it will look like ass if you bring something with a smaller resolution to a higher one :-P In conclusion, Dreamcast and later its okay, before dc, only do it if you need to.
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Xonticus wrote:
chipperkwah wrote:If you convert any signal that is not natively vga through a converter box to vga, it will look like ASS. Believe me, I bought one a few years ago with the same idea.
Yeah, I forgot to say something about that in my previous post... I assumed that the OP was interested in only getting his games to merely hook up to his monitor, but everyone's consensus is correct; it will look like ass if you bring something with a smaller resolution to a higher one :-P In conclusion, Dreamcast and later its okay, before dc, only do it if you need to.
I've posted about this before, I have my NES, Saturn, N64, PS2 and Gamecubes hooked up to a 23inch Acer VGA monitor through a French VGA converter called GameRon... There is a lot of noise on the signal when playing the games, but it is possible to play the games so its ideal for me (I have it to save space in my uni accommodation). Just don't expect to see perfect detail like the DC VGA boxes produce.
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The Xboxes can do VGA too of course.
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If you do actually want improved picture quality (RGB), the real problem, beyond the fact that many older consoles cannot output an RGB signal without slight modification (or major modification in a few cases), is that older systems output RGB in 15khz, which nearly all modern monitors won't accept.
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