EA has shut down Visceral Games

[isiolia]

Isn’t there supposed to be a campaign in the new Battlefront?

Yes.

They've highlighted it a fair bit as I recall.

[BogusMeatFactory]

Isn’t there supposed to be a campaign in the new Battlefront?

Yes, but expect it to be very short. The only reason as to why it was included was because of the campaign John Boyega began asking for one. (You know... the one they constantly refer to at all times when talking about battlefront 2 officially). We all know that the series has a primary focus on multiplayer first and foremost.

[Tanooki]

Call me the idealist too as I loathe multiplayer games in general but primarily when they're the focus of the package. I grew up playing 1P games that had a solid story and consistent solid game play and stage mechanics. I don't think it's too much to ask.

[Xeogred]

I hear that the EA Star Wars deal has been going on for five years. In five years, all they have to show for it is Battlefront, which was trash. I have to echo the thoughts of Jeff Gerstmann on the latest Bombcast, there's a 99% chance that Battlefront 2 will not hit the numbers EA probably expects from it. Apparently the license goes to 2023. That can't come soon enough, because EA has utterly failed to capitalize on it up to this point and I don't see that changing at their pace (this other Star Wars game is pushed for a 2019-2020 release, but who's to say it won't get cancelled?) They're in a identity crisis and nothing but sports games.

Maybe Lucas Arts / Disney throw some wrenches in here, but it's insane how badly EA has handled the license.

Call me the idealist too as I loathe multiplayer games in general but primarily when they're the focus of the package. I grew up playing 1P games that had a solid story and consistent solid game play and stage mechanics. I don't think it's too much to ask.

If it's going to be anything like Battlefield 1's campaign, prepare for total garbage. Either way I could not give a damn and that's even before all these shenanigans. I'm not expecting anything good out of this game at all. It's all style no substance.

Call me when Kyle Katarn is back.

[Tanooki]

Call me too, or Dash Rendar as well. I never bought it, but I have played that first Star Wars Battlefield people went crazy over from a year or two back. It's not bad, but it gets old really fast since there's no merit in playing either alone or with a friend offline as it's thin, thinner than Homer Simpson's remaining hair.

[Gunstar Green]

Call me when Kyle Katarn is back.

Someone on the games development end needs to sit down with Disney and discuss how to re-work some of these characters into the new canon because seriously so many fans would go nuts if they did something like reintroduce Kyle Katarn.

[MrPopo]

Yeah, I'm not sure handing the exclusive Star Wars license to EA was a great idea. I mean, EA is huge and probably paid a lot for it, but I wonder if Star Wars will suffer from the lack of strong narrative experiences in games. I mean, it might not matter at all. The way Disney relegated anything outside the movies to the Legends moniker and is rewriting and relicensing the canon, it might allow them to better control the essential story beats, but I do think limiting Star Wars games to the kind of games EA is now making is troublesome. EA has largely abandoned single-player story-driven experiences, despite their continued value.

It is also part of that big budget ideal. Games are more expensive to make now then ever and the price tag has not increased so there is a need for these huge budget games to keep player retention and keep them spending. I understand why they do it, but I am an idealist in that I would think people want a single player game.

YouTube and Twitch have all but killed that idea though as everything that drums up business comes from streaming and let's plays and multiplayer is where that is at.

Not only have prices not increased, but sale culture is on the rise. How many people say "oh, I'll wait to get it until the next Steam sale"? At least with multiplayer games the incentive to play right away is that the community tapers off the longer you wait.

[noiseredux]

YouTube and Twitch have all but killed that idea though as everything that drums up business comes from streaming and let's plays and multiplayer is where that is at.

I mostly agree with what you're saying. And honestly, I myself have gravitated towards games like Rocket League, Overwatch, and so on in recent year (albeit, not because of Youtube or Twitch). Having said that, it seems to me that there are definitely certain single player games that can still appeal to the Let's Play crowd. It seems to me that things like Dark Souls or GTA or Minecraft or most recently Cuphead are single player games that have enough openness to them that a single player experience can still feel unique enough to want to watch streams of (if you're into watching streams).

[BogusMeatFactory]

YouTube and Twitch have all but killed that idea though as everything that drums up business comes from streaming and let's plays and multiplayer is where that is at.

I mostly agree with what you're saying. And honestly, I myself have gravitated towards games like Rocket League, Overwatch, and so on in recent year (albeit, not because of Youtube or Twitch). Having said that, it seems to me that there are definitely certain single player games that can still appeal to the Let's Play crowd. It seems to me that things like Dark Souls or GTA or Minecraft or most recently Cuphead are single player games that have enough openness to them that a single player experience can still feel unique enough to want to watch streams of (if you're into watching streams).

I would agree with that sentiment, but dark souls is multiplayer still sue to invasions and enlisting help from viewers. GTA is almost exclusively GTA online now and minecraft, while having that strong creative element, usually has a wild card co-op partner at the least, or large teams of people working on grandiose projects. The three catagories for streaming and YouTube really can be divided into crappy games, multiplayer games and reaction games (horror and games that force a reaction from players) and it rarely deviates from there to be successful and game companies capitalize on that.

Crappy games don't flood steam because they can, they flood steam because maybe a popular youtuber or streamer will play it and make fun of it and it will blow up.

It's early.... I'm all over the place on this hahahah.

[noiseredux]

yeah. I think I was kind of thinking of "reaction" games as well, but more like Dark Souls or Cuphead or whatever are 'difficult' games and I think there's probably an audience there for watching people try to overcome these difficult games. Although again, I'm guessing because I really don't watch that stuff outside of a handful of Overwatch things I've watched for like 10 mins just to see if I could pick up any pointers.