"gamer logic" nonsense that annoys you

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When someone thinks just because it has cel shading or cartoonish it's for kids only.

People who fall for the hype from the same AAA studios who keep disappointing them. (Ubisoft and Bioware are recent examples)

Game is old therefore should be free and it's ok to pirate it.


"indie games don't count"

Just some examples. Let's see your pet peeves.

[Jmustang1968]

People who fall for the hype from the same AAA studios who keep disappointing them. (Ubisoft and Bioware are recent examples)

I have enjoyed many of the latest releases from Bioware and Ubi.

I avoided Wildlands, but I had fun with the Division for a bit, and loved R6 Siege, it is a great game. Farcry games are also solid.

[Tanooki]

Hah nice list, always got a laugh out of abandonware. Sure, it's abandoned alright, except for the little problem of ownership.

To your kids = celshading, I'll raise the bar and the insult Sony started with the N64 being nothing but a kiddie box. A prop made up following a year where more T/M games came out on there than the other guy. Sadly it dogs them 20 years later The awesome power of stupid people, rumors, and the future version of the classic game of telephone.

How about these related ones?
- Handheld games aren't real games
- Handheld games are weaker/smaller versions of real games
- Handheld games aren't worth it since they're not on a TV

That crap irks me. Just because gameboy through gba era handhelds(etc) were low resolution portables didn't mean the games were weak sauce stripped garbage either.

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"PC Master Race" Ok yeah PC's have more power. I don't care. I prefer consoles some prefer PC. Why the inferiority complex to shove it in console gamers faces? It's what Vegans do. Some play on both. Personally I don't have the cashflow to maintain a gaming PC. Even if I did it just would not be for me. I prefer a controlled system. A controller just for it. Exclusives that take advantage of that hardware. If you prefer PC fine.

People who refuse to play games with no trophies/achievements.

People who fill a shelf just have a complete but don't play them. Excuse me maybe I would like to own one of them to play that's hard to find. Some may disagree with this. That's fine.

Calling oneself a "hardcore" gamer when that person plays the most mainstream stuff. Add to that I hate the term anyway. I don't like the labels.

[AppleQueso]

the fact that people will insist visual novels, TWINE, indie art stuff, etc don't count as "real games" or whatever.

"indie bubble" talk and generally acting as if indie gaming has only been around since XBLA.

people who get legit upset if a video game tones down anime titty. Its 2017 y'all e-hentai is right over there.

[isiolia]

"PC Master Race" Ok yeah PC's have more power. I don't care. I prefer consoles some prefer PC. Why the inferiority complex to shove it in console gamers faces? It's what Vegans do. Some play on both. Personally I don't have the cashflow to maintain a gaming PC. Even if I did it just would not be for me. I prefer a controlled system. A controller just for it. Exclusives that take advantage of that hardware. If you prefer PC fine.

You realize that this is 90% tongue in cheek, right? It's kinda like l337sp34k or whatever, not very many people actually take it seriously.

People who fill a shelf just have a complete but don't play them. Excuse me maybe I would like to own one of them to play that's hard to find. Some may disagree with this. That's fine.

Same mentality really. They're likely putting on the shelf so it's there in case they want (or have time) to play it.

Calling oneself a "hardcore" gamer when that person plays the most mainstream stuff. Add to that I hate the term anyway. I don't like the labels.

To me, that terminology has far more to do with focus/intensity of gaming than variety of titles. Some people spend inordinate amounts of time on a handful of games, or even a single competitive game, title they're speedrunning, MMO, or whatever. That'd still be a hardcore approach. Booting up Obscure Indie Title of the Week to play for 15 minutes, or dabbling in new releases for an hour before dropping them is, by contrast, kinda casual. Which is fine, just saying, by definition that's what it'd be.


Though, really, I'd say the whole notion of a "gamer lifestyle" is a pet peeve. Or getting judgemental on people's preferences or habits. They're games, the point is to enjoy yourself. If you're having fun, short of it being at other people's expense, you're not doing it wrong.

the fact that people will insist visual novels, TWINE, indie art stuff, etc don't count as "real games" or whatever.

Being fair, in a lot of cases things have little in terms of actual game in lieu of a story told in a game engine. Which is fine, but fair to label as what it is.

What's sort of interesting - maybe not a pet peeve, but still - is that similar elements in larger productions will often get entirely glossed over. A lot of the "walking simulator" style games I've played are essentially the optional pickup side stories you'd find elsewhere. Just, now, not optional...but also not mixed in with much (if anything) else.

[AppleQueso]

the fact that people will insist visual novels, TWINE, indie art stuff, etc don't count as "real games" or whatever.

Being fair, in a lot of cases things have little in terms of actual game in lieu of a story told in a game engine. Which is fine, but fair to label as what it is.

visual novels and text heavy games with minimal interactivity have been around almost as long as gaming has. I don't think there is any justification for considering them "not games" or "not real games"

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[isiolia]

visual novels and text heavy games with minimal interactivity have been around almost as long as gaming has. I don't think there is any justification for considering them "not games" or "not real games"

I think there's a bit of a difference between categorizing them and completely dismissing them.

Visual Novels are a very established genre, and in turn, most customers know what to expect from one. It's also just a pretty descriptive genre. If, instead, something gets lumped into a genre that typically incorporates a lot more interaction, then people are more likely to complain when it doesn't have it. I think that's what happens with a lot of the newer style ones.

There's also a potential audience out there that might be more interested in experiencing a story that way. Maybe even moreso with VR/AR, where not everything that'd work on a 2D screen really translates.

Actually finding a genre or label to file those kinds of titles under might be better. I mean, to a greater point, why do they have to be referred to as "games"? I'd suspect more for convenience or for the sake of marketplace/retail.

[AppleQueso]

im really not gonna split hairs on genre categorizations but the "not games" attiude fosters a lot of hostility towards small indie developers because people don't think these games should exist alongside more "legitimate" titles

[Gunstar Green]

Though, really, I'd say the whole notion of a "gamer lifestyle" is a pet peeve. Or getting judgemental on people's preferences or habits. They're games, the point is to enjoy yourself. If you're having fun, short of it being at other people's expense, you're not doing it wrong.

This, seriously. Granted it's what people do with everything, "if you don't like things my way you're wrong."