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Ack wrote:Oh, we're not trying to make you feel lenient. We're instead showing you that the film industry worldwide is made up of money-grubbing vampires who don't believe anything in your life is sacred.
India releases over 1000 movies per year, and is way less monopolized as far as producers and direction. Thats one example, imo id like to not lower the rest of the world to our level.
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All of you are wrong. Star Wars are samurai films in space.
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Finally, a statement I can get behind.
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Speedy-Mcspeedz wrote:
Ack wrote:Oh, we're not trying to make you feel lenient. We're instead showing you that the film industry worldwide is made up of money-grubbing vampires who don't believe anything in your life is sacred.
India releases over 1000 movies per year, and is way less monopolized as far as producers and direction. Thats one example, imo id like to not lower the rest of the world to our level.
Well, if you would like to discuss numbers the US currently releases on average 700 movies a year, which is up from around 500 back in the 1990s. So if anything, we are reaching for India's level.
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Ack wrote:
Speedy-Mcspeedz wrote:
Ack wrote:Oh, we're not trying to make you feel lenient. We're instead showing you that the film industry worldwide is made up of money-grubbing vampires who don't believe anything in your life is sacred.
India releases over 1000 movies per year, and is way less monopolized as far as producers and direction. Thats one example, imo id like to not lower the rest of the world to our level.
Well, if you would like to discuss numbers the US currently releases on average 700 movies a year, which is up from around 500 back in the 1990s. So if anything, we are reaching for India's level.
17 years and the increase has gotta be counting every tv or netflix movie. Im still getting an average of 500 for the last couple years...etherway if the arguement is hollywood vs the world in terms of creativity then i gotta say its only a matter of time before we are no longer "top dog". Not to say we dont have great movies..just not as many will be made becuase hollywood will continue to cash crop reboots. Ticket sales are expected to be down a 20 percent this summer btw...
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In the US. You're discounting a massive new market that just opened up: mainland China. Major studios are making films with the Chinese moviegoer in mind, just as they did nearly two decades ago with the Japanese moviegoer in mind, and just as they did in the 1930s with the German moviegoer.
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Ack wrote:All of you are wrong. Star Wars are samurai films in space.
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Ack wrote:In the US. You're discounting a massive new market that just opened up: mainland China. Major studios are making films with the Chinese moviegoer in mind, just as they did nearly two decades ago with the Japanese moviegoer in mind, and just as they did in the 1930s with the German moviegoer.
The international market (and yes, mostly from China) is how big American Blockbusters make any money at all. Most of those films are lucky if they can break even on just the American market. But then the overseas stuff is aaaall profit, baby.

The prevalence of a move-going middle class in China is one reason why films like Transformers appear to appeal to such a non-progressive (by American standards) lowest common denominator. Things like even gay people, let alone something like say trans-representation, are much more controversial in East Asia than they are in the West. As a result, the big American studios play it much more safely because they know they'll win big with that. They aren't trying to make a magnum opus, they're trying to make fat stacks.

Also, even if places like Bollywood are outpacing America in terms of quantity of films produced, their films usually have a small fraction of the budget of American films. Even with a waning American audience for movie theaters (which I think will meet an ultimate demise in my lifetime), they can keep pumping out visually entertaining international spectacles because they have the connections and resources to get worldwide debuts. That's not even touching on the Imperialist trends culturally which linger in many of these places that even make it a viable strategy for an American film to be appealing to a completely Chinese audience while a Chinese movie almost never sees wide appeal here.

Even if the American movie theater completely dies (or becomes more like video game arcades where they're very niche and spread out), a booming international market will make sure to keep Hollywood sustained for a good long time.
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PartridgeSenpai wrote:
Ack wrote:In the US. You're discounting a massive new market that just opened up: mainland China. Major studios are making films with the Chinese moviegoer in mind, just as they did nearly two decades ago with the Japanese moviegoer in mind, and just as they did in the 1930s with the German moviegoer.
The international market (and yes, mostly from China) is how big American Blockbusters make any money at all. Most of those films are lucky if they can break even on just the American market. But then the overseas stuff is aaaall profit, baby.

The prevalence of a move-going middle class in China is one reason why films like Transformers appear to appeal to such a non-progressive (by American standards) lowest common denominator. Things like even gay people, let alone something like say trans-representation, are much more controversial in East Asia than they are in the West. As a result, the big American studios play it much more safely because they know they'll win big with that. They aren't trying to make a magnum opus, they're trying to make fat stacks.

Also, even if places like Bollywood are outpacing America in terms of quantity of films produced, their films usually have a small fraction of the budget of American films. Even with a waning American audience for movie theaters (which I think will meet an ultimate demise in my lifetime), they can keep pumping out visually entertaining international spectacles because they have the connections and resources to get worldwide debuts. That's not even touching on the Imperialist trends culturally which linger in many of these places that even make it a viable strategy for an American film to be appealing to a completely Chinese audience while a Chinese movie almost never sees wide appeal here.

Even if the American movie theater completely dies (or becomes more like video game arcades where they're very niche and spread out), a booming international market will make sure to keep Hollywood sustained for a good long time.
Well i agree completly, that imo is going to be the sad state of hollywood ive been talking about. I dont think im stretching it by saying we can have it both ways in terms of quality and money. In the near future we will relay on streaming services more and more for our entertainment...so its crucial that hollywood sustains quality in order to get us over to the theater. Keep in mind what makes the budget for our movies to be made in the first place-fat american asses in those chairs. What happens when we stop going as much? Suddenly netflix, hulu, amazon prime, and any other service that pops up will charge twice as much and additionally charge for movies that debut.
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PartridgeSenpai wrote:The prevalence of a movie-going middle class in China is one reason why films [snip] appeal to such a non-progressive [snip] lowest common denominator.
This explains practically everything.
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