What was the last movie you've seen?

[Xeogred]

DO YOU like generic "what is life and what am I" AI tropes that have been done for nearly four decades now? Do you especially like when a director retreads this cliche' three times over in their own movies?

DO YOU enjoy hamfisted Ridley Scott Bible stories?

THEN ALIEN FUCKING COVENANT IS FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it sucked. 30 years to finally get to do his own official sequel to Alien. Fuck this garbage. More like someone get that directing license revoked from his old ass.

The cast was at least better than Prometheus', but this just made me to decide to hate that one now too. These two movies are a one shot and done viewing for me. I'm pretty confident I never need to see these ever again.

Alien 3 is better. And I was happy that Alien finally divorced from Predator, yet... I'm pretty damn sure I think I had more fun with AvP1 than Prometheus and Covenant.

Alien, Aliens, and Alien Isolation are all you need. Good, fun, hard sci-fi. Screw the rest.

[strangenova]

You must've just seen it, cause I know that feeling.

And yeah Alien 3 is pretty damn good in my book.

[Segata]

Oddly I hate Alien 3 more than Resurrection.

[MrPopo]

Alien 3 is terrible. But we can all agree that the whole thing went massively downhill after Aliens.

[strangenova]

Alien 3 is terrible. But we can all agree that the whole thing went massively downhill after Aliens.

Yeah I agree. Alien 3 I do like but it's not up to par with the first two entries.

[Xeogred]

Alien 3 is terrible. But we can all agree that the whole thing went massively downhill after Aliens.

Yeah I agree. Alien 3 I do like but it's not up to par with the first two entries.

Totally, Alien and Aliens are on another league.

I think Alien 3 is a good Riddick sidestory. Take out the awful CGI dog aliens, and it's an okay weird prison sci-fi drama.

[Gunstar Green]

You make one of the greatest sci-fi/horror flicks ever with Alien then you make one of the greatest sci-fi/action flicks ever with Aliens. Where do you go after that?

I think the biggest sin of Prometheus and Covenant is it sets out to try and explain things that no one wanted explained. The simple plots of Alien and Aliens work and are scary largely because they're unexplained and prey on the fear of that. I think it's an odd case where trying to expand the world of these stories just makes them less interesting.

[Xeogred]

Yeah that's what is so damn hilarious about Covenant and something we've seen in many sequels with huge gaps in between or reboots... Alien is almost 40 YEARS OLD, yet everything about it is far more terrifying and effective regardless of all this increase in technology and desensitization to gore with Prometheus/Covenant being blood baths in some parts. Nothing about these two movies is scary or moody at all!

Adding insult to injury is how they literally retreated like ~10 scenes from the series in Covenant again, with far less interesting characters. So why should I give a damn? And how are scenes I've already seen going to be effective again? Is this Ridley Scott playing homage to his own work? And sorry this isn't a major spoiler, but the chest burst scene in Covenant is literally laugh out loud bad with what they do with it. My friends agreed on that part and I wasn't the only one. May as well been part of the Space Balls gag at the end of that one.

Man, I'm fuming. I knew full well going into it that I was probably going to get the midichlorians of Alien, but it was far worse and uninteresting than I could have even predicted. This is seriously the origins of it all? The start of this iconic monster and series? Yeah right.

Chances are they just tacked on "Alien" and the Xenomorph to get more sales over Promotheus. But I think there was maybe like 12 people in the 100 some theater we were in. Good luck with that box office.

I'm even more worried about Blade Runner 2, but thank goodness Ridley Scott isn't directing it. I can't even fathom how pretentious he would have went with that one.

Seriously though yeah, what I wish we could have gotten with the Alien-verse after all these years, is just some damn good simple sci-fi with its cool world and maybe some xenomorphs or other creatures in the backdrop... which is exactly what Isolation did and it was incredible. Frankly that game is too good for this franchise really.

[MrPopo]

I think the biggest sin of Prometheus and Covenant is it sets out to try and explain things that no one wanted explained. The simple plots of Alien and Aliens work and are scary largely because they're unexplained and prey on the fear of that. I think it's an odd case where trying to expand the world of these stories just makes them less interesting.

Speak for yourself. I want everything explained.

Adding insult to injury is how they literally retreated like ~10 scenes from the series in Covenant again, with far less interesting characters. So why should I give a damn? And how are scenes I've already seen going to be effective again? Is this Ridley Scott playing homage to his own work? And sorry this isn't a major spoiler, but the chest burst scene in Covenant is literally laugh out loud bad with what they do with it. My friends agreed on that part and I wasn't the only one. May as well been part of the Space Balls gag at the end of that one.

To be fair, when the premise is "unstoppable killing machine that hunts its prey through narrow corridors" there's not a whole lot of unique things you can do. It's inevitable that they're going to hit the same sorts of beats.

Personally, I think you went in wanting to hate it. You've got Alien far too built up just like it sounds like you did with Star Wars. So a movie that doesn't live up to the original now becomes the worst thing imaginable, instead of just being a decent movie in the same universe.

[strangenova]

You know I agree with Gunstar and Xeogred. When it comes to alien less is more, no need for heavy handed explanations and religious allegories.

I think I my biggest gripe is that Ridley is actively trying to retcon all the Alien films he didn't make, including Aliens. The eggs are made in a lab and these aliens are not insect like, so there goes James Cameron and everything after his film.

Ridley doesn't even play nice with Prometheus. What happened to the Xenomorph mural in the black goo chamber, that mural was created at least two millenia before David created the Xenomorphs. He also failed to follow up any of the questions he created with Prometheus by killing Shaw and all these engineers off screen before the film starts.