Backups in the USA

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Backups in the USA

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I am wondering how a lot of USA citizens are downloading backups off the torrents? Assuming you have the actual game, maybe you can, but what about those who don't own a legit copy? What about those movies and music?

Don't you go to jail for that kind of stuff?
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Unless you're doing it commercially, copyright infringement is a civil matter not a criminal one. So you can't go to jail. You can get sued if you're found, but there are tens of millions of file sharers, and lawsuits number only in the thousands. And it's really just the music industry doing the suing. Nobody really cares enough to stop people from swapping old Saturn discs.
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And as far as lawsuits go, I've only really heard about ones directed towards those who harvest a crapload and distribute to a decent extent. So if you are holding several hundred gigs and are freely distributing it/ selling it, you might wanna calm down a bit before your cover is blown. BTW selling pirated stuff sucks, unless it is almost impossible to find or out of print, and then i'd only accept it if its super cheap.
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Actually a lot of the lawsuits the RIAA was doing were aimed at people just running p2p programs and having a shared directory. It's pretty random, if they can connect to you and see a file that they claim copyright on, you could get sued.

Of course, the RIAA has sued over 18000 people (http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/20785). But p2p has up to 9 million people (http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1031) connected at any given time. Considering a lot of people don't connect 24/7, it's going to be higher, and that number doesn't even count the torrenters. Assuming conservatively that people are connected to p2p 50% of the time, and that bittorrent use is about the same as other p2p use that's something like 36 million, which works out to a chance of 1 in 2000 of getting sued.

Most of these RIAA lawsuits settle for around 3000. Considering that there's a 1 in 2000 chance that's 3000 * 1/2000 = that's an expected cost (http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/farid/mathkids/risk.html) of $1.5 if you get caught. If you save more than $1.50 by downloading, you'll come out ahead in the long run.

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Hatta wrote:Actually a lot of the lawsuits the RIAA was doing were aimed at people just running p2p programs and having a shared directory. It's pretty random, if they can connect to you and see a file that they claim copyright on, you could get sued.

Of course, the RIAA has sued over 18000 people (http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/20785). But p2p has up to 9 million people (http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1031) connected at any given time. Considering a lot of people don't connect 24/7, it's going to be higher, and that number doesn't even count the torrenters. Assuming conservatively that people are connected to p2p 50% of the time, and that bittorrent use is about the same as other p2p use that's something like 36 million, which works out to a chance of 1 in 2000 of getting sued.

Most of these RIAA lawsuits settle for around 3000. Considering that there's a 1 in 2000 chance that's 3000 * 1/2000 = that's an expected cost (http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/farid/mathkids/risk.html) of $1.5 if you get caught. If you save more than $1.50 by downloading, you'll come out ahead in the long run.

BTW, I hate this BBcode garbage. Can I get a real hyperlink tag?

Didnt the RIAA say they were going to stop suing people? I think I read that within the past yeae
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Hatta wrote:BTW, I hate this BBcode garbage. Can I get a real hyperlink tag?
Is it really that difficult to substitue [url=blah] for <a href="blah">? The rest of the format's the same, just with a closing url tag instead of a.
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Oh, I didn't know you could do that.
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I have no problem with or any fear of piracy. I do have a problem with people who make a profit off of piracy. I literally want to beat their faces in. People may hate a person like me for dabbling in the occasional free game, but you'll never see me make a penny off a game I didn't work on.
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