Your "Gaming Saturation Point"?

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Kuruwin wrote:If you start to be so picky about then how was NES to SNES really improvement either? You can basically scale down almost any SNES game to NES so how was that any big leap in technology.

It's just bullshit to say that the leap from PS2 to PS3 didn't offer anything significant. What about lot more livelier open worlds? What about huge leap in facial animation and things like that. Things like that might not offer new gameplay ideas but they make everything lot more immersive and that's nothing to sniff at.
I'm not saying that there wasn't an improvement, it just wasn't the massive leap from PSX -> PS2. I completely agree that the increased presentation helps with immersion, and that it was a jump. Just not as big a jump. (Seriously, I remember when I first popped Enchanted Arms into my new 360 on an HDTV, and being blown away at how nice everything looked, so I'm not dismissing it out of hand!)

The SNES was very much similar to the jump from PSX -> PS2. While the NES could have handled some downports, they would have performed significantly more poorly (if at all) just because of the tech constraints. It (and the Genesis) got the systems to a level where they could pull off existing genres with much greater aplomb. That's the same thing the PS2 did. The PS3 further evolved that, but I'm simply arguing that the tech of the PS2 got gaming to a point where a lot of the stuff after gave diminishing returns.

(In simpler terms, I'm going to pull out BS numbers and say PS2 improved on PS1 by 100%, and PS3 over PS2 by 50%.)

Oh, as for the Uncharted example: It's certainly a pretty game, and I love it, but the gameplay contained therein has been done on PS2 before, in the form of the Tomb Raider reboots. Tomb Raider Legend, Anniversary, and the like. And you can throw in Prince of Persia as well. And those games aren't slouches in presentation, either.
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Kuruwin wrote:
Exhuminator wrote:
Kuruwin wrote:You can basically scale down almost any SNES game to NES so how was that any big leap in technology.
F-Zero, Star Fox, and Uniracers on NES would be rad.
So would Uncharted 3 (Last Of Us) La Noire and something like Skyrim on PS2.
Like Sarge said, Uncharted wasn't that far removed from the Tomb Raiders / Prince of Persias on PS2, just graphically more significant. LA Noire isn't that far removed from the GTA games on PS2. And Skyrim's equivalent in the sixth gen was Morrowind, which did exist on Xbox even if it didn't exist on PS2. Morrowind could have been watered down a bit more to work on PS2 without a doubt.
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With that logic, any game can be "watered down" to be played on a previous generation.
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Jmustang1968 wrote:With that logic, any game can be "watered down" to be played on a previous generation.
Not at all, you're conflating my examples to a ludicrous degree in that regard.

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Let's go back a minute. The original point of contention was PS1 -> PS2 being a more significant leap than PS2 -> PS3. If this is truly a concept worthy of discussion on a deeper level, perhaps a thread is required. I think I'll do it even.
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Re: Your "Gaming Saturation Point"?

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Jmustang1968 wrote:With that logic, any game can be "watered down" to be played on a previous generation.
Yeah. Everyone is free to think what they want. I'm not going to argue about this any further.
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Kuruwin wrote:
Jmustang1968 wrote:With that logic, any game can be "watered down" to be played on a previous generation.
Yeah. Everyone is free to think what they want. I'm not going to argue about this any further.
Well if you care to debate it in a dispassionate manner:

http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopi ... 44&t=51112

Meanwhile we can all stop derailing this thread. 8)
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Re: Your "Gaming Saturation Point"?

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Wait so this thread isn't about a gaming saturation point? Hmm.
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This thread got saturated, lol.
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