Your "Gaming Saturation Point"?

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Ziggy587 wrote:Not that there's anything wrong with it, but this is a very introverted way of looking at new consoles. There's plenty of social reasons why you would want to stay current.
Now that is a good point, yes. If you want to maintain online parity with your friends staying up to date makes sense. Personally speaking, I care very little for online multiplayer, so the introverted stance comes natural.
isiolia wrote:Trying to get through everything I might want to play on PS2 before moving on to PS3/etc makes about as much sense to me as trying to get through ever 80s pop song or TV show before delving into stuff from the 90s, etc.
I don't know if I agree with this analog. I get a little iffy when people compare the gaming medium to music or movies. There are some considerable differences. You can listen to 80s pop songs on the same device as you do your 90s ones. It'd be a bit different when all your 80s pops songs are on cassette, and the only way to listen to the 90s ones is to buy a CD player, let alone having to buy an iPod to listen to the 00s ones, and then an iPhone to listen to the 10s ones. But don't take me as not getting your point, I get your point.

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Also for everyone that said PC is the most future-proof/universal platform investment, I agree.
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Yes and no. As always, moderation is the major key here.

Up until recently for the most part, I finally came to peace with the fact that there probably will be a lot of platforms I never dive too deeply into. The Sega Saturn is a big one. After I bought two modded ones (from people here actually, ages ago when I first joined up)... I burned a few games and that was about it. Yeah, there's still some oddballs I want to check out on it, but it's not hard for me to see the reality of this case now. My actions really summed it up and at this point, I'm completely fine with that.

TG16, Dreamcast, Gamecube, and some others also come to mind. Again, there's still some games on these I want to check out, but they will never be the priority. I don't want to say I've become narrow minded at this point in my gaming career, but I've felt better about hyper focusing on more select things as of late. This applies to both platforms, and games/genres/devs. I was very impulsive back in the early 360 days and regret probably like 70% of my monster collection of it. I really haven't had any regrets with my slower purchases since then (well Yaiba Z Ninja Gaiden could probably seriously be thrown in the literal trash). It was kind of a "bro" phase for me overall I guess, got on that AAA hype bandwagon for most things, jumped into stuff by word of mouth from friends until realizing years later my tastes can be extremely different. All that said I think the industry has shifted in ways I prefer as well though, it feels like Japanese titles have become a little more prominent again and my NES blood runs deep so I'll always lean into that stuff more, and I'm not that much of a social gamer in the long run. I guess as usual I find myself to be a bit in the minority, but I am absolutely loving this current gen, even at my snails pace at keeping up with some new releases.

I am pretty much always rotating an old game between a new one, so there's always this nice balance. My backlog has never been out of control and keeping lists of things, putting my unplayed stuff on another shelf, and making separate lists on Steam, etc have all helped me keep way more organized and even feel rewarded and accomplished when I knock out unplayed stuff. Right now I have 46 physical games I need to play, might not be much compared to others, and the end is in sight and exciting to think about. Like I only have 2 PS3 games I need to play. Yeah, I'll buy more, but I just love keeping it organized and getting that accomplished feel in keeping it clean.
Exhuminator wrote:I find myself feeling like an odd-man-out, because I don't seem to find the immediate attraction to something just because it's "new". Even on RacketBoy, a supposedly retro-gaming website, I notice a lot of folks around here buy new hardware platforms as soon as they release. (And that's not a knock against anyone who does, just an observation.) For example I see a lot of talk about people having pre-ordered the Switch, and people taking days off work to play it, and that whole concept is just alien to me. I need for the Switch to prove itself to me as a viable platform, before I even consider adding it to my existing stockpile of unplayed stuff, that I can only very slowly whittle away at.

I guess the question is; those of you who consistently jump on new platforms as soon as they release... why? Have you already played everything you already own? Or did you just buy the most popular games for your systems, so you've played the greatest hits? Are you bored with all the systems you currently have? Is the attraction simply that the releasing platform is new, and new is always "better"? Are you uncomfortable staying a generation or two behind? Do you ever see yourself reaching a gaming saturation point, where you find yourself content with what you already have, for like at least five years? Or am I the only one who feels this way? :lol:
I still get excited about new hardware and always will. Still get that giddy kid under the Christmas tree when I'm opening one up.

That said I'm feeling completely okay on waiting out on the Switch for a long time. Super Mario Odyssey will tempt me, but there's still a few dozen games on the Wii U I want to check out and I love that system. In ways I like that it's getting its life support cut right now, so the Wii U has an beginning and end I can sift through and grab what I want without worrying about more. All the while the Switch builds up and I can really pin down exactly what I'll want and not.

There is also a TON of new PS4 games coming out this year I'm excited about. I'm holding off until moving though, but I only buy maybe like ~3-5 new games at max a year thesedays anyways... and guess who wins? I do, because prices tend to drop faster than ever thesedays and you often end up getting Ultimate + all DLC editions so you pay less for the better versions.

Ziggy has a fair point about being caught up socially though. Now that I'm into some gaming podcasts that's also been interesting. But a year into listening to a ton of them and being on the top of all the news, I don't feel any extra pressure in having to constantly keep up.

For the most part I usually did get all the platforms. But the Xbox One is something I can confidently say I have zero interest in and feel great about that. Like the Sega Saturn deal, I think some people should just try not to stress about it and know that it's okay to be content with less sometimes.

As for the PS4, yeah I am very happy I bought it right away and was able to play the superior versions of those cross gen releases, an era that I really hated. So I want the tech and platforms to keep moving and evolving, there needs to be a beginning and end for a console lifespan that can give us a static list of titles to look at and research. Would I want a Switch more if I didn't have a PS4? Possibly, so I would say I like to have some hand in the new tech. If there's a big new release I absolutely must get, I want to be in an able position to play it.

Gonna stop there since this is too big. Overall this isn't something I tend to stress or think much about at all (guess my huge ass post says otherwise) and I feel great about how I digest my gaming thesedays. Dip my toes in everything, stay informed, be a little selective, keep the moderation and organization consistent, and have fun.
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I guess I'll mention a few more things about Wii U, Xbox One, PS4, Switch...

Wii U = Barely enough exclusives there that I find interesting, like maybe three or four? I'll get one someday but with so few key exclusives that intrigue me it's hard to justify the cost.

Xbox One = Pretty much everything I see there I can just play on PC.

PS4 = It's the PS3 all over again with more power, that's fine. Except about half the PS4 games I've seen look like they could have ran fine on the PS3 (this especially goes for many Japanese releases). I haven't seen any PS4 exclusives that have invigorated my interest enough to buy one.

Switch = I am not impressed or excited about the Switch hardware. I'm just not, sorry guys. From what I've seen so far it looks boring. :| Yeah it's portable, that's great I guess. I do most of my gaming at home, so that really means squat to me. Hopefully the Switch will get plenty of third party support and have some killer exclusives.

The last gaming hardware stuff that has excited me, was the new wave of VR. But all of the good VR options are so expensive, with such limited third party support, the VR influx has been a hot mess unfortunately.
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I like buying new systems, but have often waited until they price-drop to do so. I did this with the Wii U and the 3DS, so y'all can't accuse me of being a complete Nintendo fanboy.

I probably hit a saturation point years ago. I'm buying more now on games that I'm interested in playing at some point than really anything I've got the time to play. I also am currently in a strange place where I tend to ignore the PSX/PS2/PS3 generations, mostly gaming at the extremes (NES/SNES/Genesis and modern-day titles). Not entirely sure why that is, but there ya go.

I also don't buy a lot of games right off the bat anymore. I only do that for games that I know that I'm going to play immediately; otherwise, I'm content to wait for them to price-drop.
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Sarge wrote:I'm buying more now on games that I'm interested in playing at some point than really anything I've got the time to play.
Yeah, this has been my buying ethos since 2007 at least. :|
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Exhuminator wrote: PS4 = It's the PS3 all over again with more power, that's fine. Except about half the PS4 games I've seen look like they could have ran fine on the PS3 (this especially goes for many Japanese releases). I haven't seen any PS4 exclusives that have invigorated my interest enough to buy one.
IMO, this is probably more a critique or observation on a fair chunk of Japanese games right now over the PS4 itself. Home consoles aren't selling very well in that region in general, so you seem to see a lot of cross releases on the Vita (which has a far larger install base than the PS4 there). On top of that, a lot of them are being released on PC as well.

Plus, the bigger budgets seem to go towards more NA/EU region oriented games, since that's where most of the user base is. More cynically, there are a lot of copy/paste hack and slash games and the like that sell based on the IP they pasted in and/or boobs.

Still, there are a good number of exclusives, and more coming - or just better versions of cross platform games. IE, you bought the Darksiders games the other week, which both have remastered versions on PS4 for literally a few bucks more ($20 MSRP).
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My position is a little different than most.

First, I pretty much only enjoy "retro" games, whether they're actually old or "retro" in style and substance (like Shovel Knight, Undertale, the new Shantae, and so on). I simply don't like the vast majority of modern games, and the elements that comprise them. Nothing "objectively" "bad" about this stuff, it just isn't for me.

Because of this, I have reached a "limit," so to speak, when it comes to newer hardware. I have no interest in a Xbox One or PS4, as they are (obviously) saturated with modern games. If I was given, say, a PS4 I could think of maybe five games I'd consider worthwhile (not counting the Atari compilations :wink: ). That just isn't worth it. Additionally, I am not employed and don't plan to be anytime in the near future, so I can't spend money frivolously on hardware that "may" eventually support games I'd enjoy.

Now I will defend my purchase of the Vita, 3DS, Wii U, and Switch (years from now) as those systems do offer enough games that are suited to my interests. 2D platformers, RPGs, and the like.

For the most part, I see no advantages to pre-ordering and buying at launch. I wait for games and hardware to prove themselves worthy.

I'm most interested in further exploration of the retro scene. I'd like to someday own a CD-I, Studio II, Arcadia 2001, to name a few. And I enjoy exploring the depths of the retro consoles I already own. For instance, I've been diving into the Japan-only PCE RPG library these last couple of months and discovering lots of hidden gems.

tl;dr I play retro games
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Yeah, it's humorous how I missed out on some PS2 stuff, so I won out with the PS3 HD remaster collections and such. It happened again when I missed some PS3 stuff, and got PS4 remasters as well.

I'll always be a fan of remasters and next gen ports... I think you can easily apply the DVD vs BD argument here. Some people think it's silly but I don't really see why anyone would complain.
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This is a tough question for me to answer. I just bought a PS4 and want to explore more of its library. And I'm also excited for the switch, but might wait until a price drop, like Sarge has hinted at. I think my saturation point is not having an extensive backlog. It clouds my decision-making process of what I actually want to play. I currently have 310 games that I've beaten, 32 that I've started or have made some progress into, and 25 that I haven't really made much progress. I think if that ballooned to anything bigger than it is, I'd have a hard time keeping interest.

One of my goals this year is to play down this backlog into something more manageable. I think it's getting back to basics where I can take a snail's pace into games (given my time is more precious now) that are on my backlog, and enjoy what I already own. I think I want to keep my spending down too, which is why I think I'm reaching a saturation point in what I choose to buy and enjoy, and stop falling into the full MSRP trap. This I'm trying to keep in line with, unless it's a series I'm truly a fan of. Most AAA titles for example, I'm not going to jump into right away when it first comes out. I don't mind waiting a while to get it at a steep discount.
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I'm in the process of finally getting my new dork cave together. Literally unwrapping shelves at the moment. At some point I plan to do an inventory of how many unplayed/unbeat games I have for each system I still maintain physical libraries for. It's got to be in the hundreds easy.

Blu has a good point on reducing backlog library. This is something I've been actively doing for about three years now. I massively reduced my Xbox, GameCube, Wii, and PS2 libraries for instance. A bittersweet thing to do, but sensible in the grand scheme of things. I plan to sell off a lot more stuff in the future. Not just games, but gaming hardware as well.
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